This is why sampling is so important

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There are better examples of sample flips...This sounds like the typical cookie cutter Premo beat...

Plus, a smart person could argue that Hip Hop sampling is like poaching...You are killing an elephant just to use the tusks, but don't make use of the rest of the body...

this post is retarded
 

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Plus, a smart person could argue that Hip Hop sampling is like poaching...You are killing an elephant just to use the tusks, but don't make use of the rest of the body...

are you sure a "smart" person would say this?
 

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Edward Scissorhands breh :ohlawd:

I never saw this movie until 2 years ago and when it first came on, my wife was asking me why I got so crunk *yeah I did* when I heard that. Had to put on that Undaground Legend for her....Banner killed it. :wow:


 
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I'm not really sure how to phrase this, but here goes...

Sampling also serves to put whatever song use a sample in a continuum I believe, since the sample refers to a song that was created earlier, so the song using a sample is a "continuation" of the previous one. But a "continuation" that is new. It's the best example, imo, of "pushing the culture forward" : you link the past to the present, building on the good stuff that has already been done. So really the only way is up : the quality of what you sample damn near forces you to make a good song imo. If the producer has the ability to recognize a good sample and use it well.

Sampling precisely also expands the genre, for the simple reason that producers have to look into different genres and expand their musical knowledge to find the samples. So obviously, all kinds of different influences are coming into HH, which can only make it better. From kung-fu flicks to classical music to triphop, samples expand the possibilities of HH, which is why I feel it became the most universal genre and a genre that can convey ANY kind of story/emotion.

And finally, as I said samples are a link to the past and listeners can either just enjoy them in the song, or go and dig them up to discover the original. This is really important, I discovered tons of great music basically thanks to Rza, Kanye, Premo, Dre, etc (I'm not American so was less familiar with the artists that they sampled) so those producers not only gave me great music, but gave me keys to discover ever MORE great music by looking up who they sampled. So they're passing on the culture to the youth. I read a lot on the importance (especially for minorities) to transmit culture to the younger generations in order for them to feel good about themselves, and transmitting music is a HUGE part of that. I'm from Africa so I know damn well the social, cultural and historical importance of music (that link to music was brought to the US by the slaves) that is FAR more than "just entertainment". Lest we forget that minorities often don't have their own historians and have to just accept whatever the majority says about them/their history. Sampling circumvents that, saying "listen : this is the great music we were ALREADY doing 20-30 years ago. It's not only the Beatles and the Bruce Springsteens out there, we got our own amazing artists." I'm not sure if I phrased this well but I feel it's an extremely important aspect in transmitting the culture and thus giving the youth some kind of "foundation", even if they are not aware of it.
 

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this is a terrible fukking analogy and youre an idiot.

who the fukk cares about not using the body when your goal is to create something new ? a producer can hear a sound that isnt even a big part of a record and immediately paints a picture of what it could be once you fit to your vision/style. so its more like taking the tusks and putting them on a new animal you have created. one producer might want the tusks, another may want the trunk. it doesnt matter. 10 producers will hear the same song and youll get 10 different beats.

a producer can make great music with a sound that wasnt anything special on its own until they added their own strings, pianos, bass, voice sample and percussion, etc.... whatever.
this.

example:


3:36


took that miniscule part of a song and made a classic out of it.
 

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Some of the best beats i ever heard were made in the past 5 years...even though the 2010's era producers have alot less to work with...seems to me that they're alot more creative with their beats than alot of producers in the past...not all...but ESPECIALLY compared to a guy like Premo who would just take a sample and loop it without even flipping it or touching it up (like the song in the OP)

There's a higher level of creativity in making beats like THESE than a song like the OP














more sounds
more samples
beat changeups
more compllex drum & bass patterns

And they sound better :yeshrug:

everyone of these beats does the same shyt with the hi hats :scust:
 

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For the dumb ass that's arguing in here, I've listened to 100s of the original samples Premo has chopped up, him along with Havoc are the most creative samplers of all time, it can't even be argued. His chopping/sampling game is legendary.

When I be on the Mic by Rakim (0:07)


Or have your way with this...
DJ Premier Producer Profile on WhoSampled

Who's fukking with this?

dilla the most creative



1:53





0:17







this shyt just stupid i forgot the name of the sample

 

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everyone of these beats does the same shyt with the hi hats :scust:

No the fukk they don't...did you even click on any of the videos? :dahell:

Even single one of those tracks did something different with the hi hats...the 1st migos track used rapid hi hats...while the 2nd, the hi hats were at such a low rate you can barely hear 'em.

What about the variation in sampling, beat changeups and drum & bass patterns in all those tracks? All are trap/drill songs but all sound different from one another...
 

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Some of the best beats i ever heard were made in the past 5 years...even though the 2010's era producers have alot less to work with...seems to me that they're alot more creative with their beats than alot of producers in the past...not all...but ESPECIALLY compared to a guy like Premo who would just take a sample and loop it without even flipping it or touching it up (like the song in the OP)

There's a higher level of creativity in making beats like THESE than a song like the OP














more sounds
more samples
beat changeups
more compllex drum & bass patterns

And they sound better :yeshrug:

The first four beats aren't great by any stretch of the imagination. But post the originals so we can see what was done with the samples.
 
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