This is why the US will never win a world cup

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I'll probably get flamed for this....

What it will take for the US to become a world power in world football (aka soccer)....

1)As already mentioned, a complete culture change. The game has to be embraced widespread. South Americans and Europeans, live, breath and die for this shyt ; children and adults alike. There has been some growth here in the States, but not enough to say football has arrived. Jurgen Klinsman has done a decent job implementing this culture (though a lot of the old guard has fought him.), but more changes are needed. Personally, I will say that when a majority of the MLS teams can host sell out crowds(and not sell empty seats to corporate sponsors or ticket re-set agencies)is when football has arrived. When the culture change comes, football knowledge will be more commonplace. There will be a benefit that I'll mention later.

2)A redistribution of the nation's athletic talent. People are gonna argue tooth and nail over this, but this is a painful reality that must happen. When I talk about athletic talent, I'm not only speaking about athleticism; the most important aspect of an athlete is his sport IQ and their ability to apply their knowledge of the game to be, at minimum, effective as a professional, and at maximum, a transcendent player that can be the face of your club and/or country. It's the difference between Lionel Messi/C. Ronaldo and a American college soccer player; the Barcelonas/Real Madrids & Toronto FC (minus Giovinco), Brazil, Argentina, Germany & Spain over teams like the USMNT. Ultimately, it's the individual's choice as to what sport they want to play, but there's an over-saturation of NFL and NBA players that would have been better soccer players if they would have applied the same work ethic and ambition to get drafted in the NFL or NBA, they would have been world class footballers, as well. The general US soccer player lacks the athleticism to physically compete, the technical skill to execute important skills needed in order to be a complete player, or the IQ to know how and when to apply everything. Even with a lot of "our" greatest players, they had at least one of these flaws. This is one of the places where a knowledge of the game and the culture would be beneficial. Reality: You need great athletes with high sports IQ to produce world class players and teams.

3)Quality coaching at EVERY level. This has been the crux of why the USMNT is where it is in world football among men's teams. The USWNT is the best women's team in the world. Period.

4)Reduction of foreign nationals.... As much as I love the foreign nationals that have played for the US shirt, it's not helping the development of US soccer, which has been happening for the entire existence of the USSF. Most of these players, especially the current ones, are mercenaries for hire that couldn't land a spot on their first choice. The ones that are good enough, play for other countries. We need to get to a point where our best talent is developed right here at home, which leads to....

5)The quality and success of MLS..... Good domestic league with great homegrown talent = Better national team. There is maybe 1 or 2 MLS teams that can produce decent players.... by MLS standards. When MLS can legitimately produce world class professionals that are coveted by the European league.... and still be able to keep them is when soccer in NA (outside of Mexico) will get its due.

Sorry for the rant. I'm passionate about football.
 

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We'll never be able to compete with the rest of the world in football, even if if NBA/NFL players were playing, the main reason is a difference in philosophy. These kids are signed by pro teams when they're between 8-11 years old in a lot of cases, they end up going to club youth academies and their profession is football before they even hit puberty. We'd still have the HS to College pipeline while the rest of the world functions on the idea that if you're good at something early on you should be trained like a pro.


Look at the video @BLAZO da GAWD posted, all those kids are signed to pro clubs and not one of them is even 12 years old. Just look at this shyt -

That's Real Madrid's youth academy.

Now imagine how much better NBA/NFL players would be if teams had youth teams and were signing players at like 10 years old and having them practice like professionals for the vast majority of their lives.

Bigger problem is size and kids won't grow until early teens and on


You can be a midget and be the best player in soccer, ain't happening in basketball and football
 

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You crehs do not understand how these academies work.

These kids actually goto school and get an education outside of the game.

They are also not forced to play every day. Its actually the opposite.

The key is that when doing light training or playing, the coaching they get is the best they will ever get.
 

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Why do you guys care so much about being good at soccer? It's not a sport that's a part of American culture so you being bad at it isn't something to be concerned about.

England on the other hand. What's their excuse? They invented the damn thing.
 

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It's the same how we see kids with a really advanced dribble and hesitations at 8 or 9 years old here for basketball.

That said, while I do think those soccer academies elevate those kids' games, I tend to think because those kids have been playing against other kids with a passion for soccer, iron sharpens iron.

We have that for basketball here, but not for soccer.
 

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It's the same how we see kids with a really advanced dribble and hesitations at 8 or 9 years old here for basketball.

That said, while I do think those soccer academies elevate those kids' games, I tend to think because those kids have been playing against other kids with a passion for soccer, iron sharpens iron.

We have that for basketball here, but not for soccer.

Exactly. Americans just don't care about soccer. We do, however, care about games like basketball. That's why you see 8 and 8 year old USA basketball kids doing advanced hesitation, jab step, crossovers, etc today.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Bigger problem is size and kids won't grow until early teens and on


You can be a midget and be the best player in soccer, ain't happening in basketball and football


There's a bigger talent pool for Football, more people of normal heights can play the game, but it's not like everyone is short. The German WC team averaged 6'1" which is also the average height in the NFL :yeshrug:
 

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There's a bigger talent pool for Football, more people of normal heights can play the game, but it's not like everyone is short. The German WC team averaged 6'1" which is also the average height in the NFL :yeshrug:
There are a lot more 6'1 soccer body types walking around compared to football body types
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
There are a lot more 6'1 soccer body types walking around compared to football body types

The only difference is weight lifting, it's easier to bulk up and go from 190lbs to 230lbs than it is to develop the skills needed to be good at football. In Handegg all you really need is a cycle and a gym membership, skills not required :mjpls:
 

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The only difference is weight lifting, it's easier to bulk up and go from 190lbs to 230lbs than it is to develop the skills needed to be good at football. In Handegg all you really need is a cycle and a gym membership, skills not required :mjpls:
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
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