This "Jesus Camp" documentary is frightening

[tmonster]

I thought Christianity only gave you things that are out of your control. When you wish for real things, you don't get them, because he works in 'mysterious' ways.
I want world peace, and the elimination of prejudice, but it seems he is either unable, or unwilling - perhaps we truly are created in his image then.

you can't have world peace because
-you don't pray enough
-you sin
-the devil
-you don't understand his ways...they are mysterious. Does an ant understand you? I think not. checkmate!
-these are problems that man create and he has to solve them
-Do you know how many awards and homeruns that God is facilitating everyday, don't be selfish breh
-You have free will, that's why these things exist, don't you love free will breh?

so in conclusion, why do you hate god?

 

[tmonster]

I wonder how much disgust you display at how people are brainwashed into supporting capitalism... None? Some?

I would guess none at all breh, it's people like him that push us towards the devil and the end o the world
why da hell would he continue to ignore capitalism in order to make this god hating thread? hating god is a helluva drug

 

[joeychizzle]

you can't have world peace because
-you don't pray enough
-you sin
-the devil
-you don't understand his ways...they are mysterious. Does an ant understand you? I think not. checkmate!
-these are problems that man create and he has to solve them
-Do you know how many awards and homeruns that God is facilitating everyday, don't be selfish breh
-You have free will, that's why these things exist, don't you love free will breh?

so in conclusion, why do you hate god?

I don't hate something that doesn't exist.

 

[Dat Migo]

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[ch15x]

Reminds me of a Christian summer camp that shacks up at my workplace (university) every year. It's gotten smaller, but they used to come by the busloads...

I don't think it's as extreme Jesus Camp, though...

 

[Everythingg]

Any self-aware individual would not fail to realize that our obsession with material wealth borders on religious frenzy.

I agree. Just see alot of complaining about religion and not the TRUE problem in this world

And yet.. One feeds us with tangible subsistence, real houses, real clothing, and real water.

At the expense of something right?

 

[tmonster]

I don't hate something that doesn't exist.

you're talking about it, therefore it's a thing you must know exists

 

[Everythingg]

what a weak argument

Weak argument? All I see is people complaining about religion but never at what has used to religion to advance it purposes.

Theres DEFINITELY some brainwashing involved in religion. I was just wondering why one gets ignored while the other doesnt when one has a much bigger effect on our lives.

 

[Everythingg]

Great response. He also fails to recognize that capitalism and religion often have gone hand in hand.

Actually, I know that quite well. I just dont see brehs complaining about capitalism and imperialism as much as religion. I see more people complaining about religion that doesnt affect them like the other to aforementioned aspects.

But he deliberately attempted to deflect the thread so we shouldn't give him any more exposure. It seems he probably only saw the title contained "Jesus" and has not actually watched the documentary. A lot of Christians have deemed "Jesus Camp" extremism and even child abuse.

No. Just hoping that my brethren arent exhibiting "fake outrage" at things happening in our world.

But I agree. There is definitely brainwashing in alotta aspects of life including religion

 

[the cac mamba]

Actually, I know that quite well. I just dont see brehs complaining about capitalism and imperialism as much as religion. I see more people complaining about religion that doesnt affect them like the other to aforementioned aspects.

how about because capitalism has tangible positive benefits, while religion has ZERO?

more pseudo-caping from one of the worst fake intellectuals on the board go read a bible, fakkit

 

[Everythingg]

how about because capitalism has tangible positive benefits, while religion has ZERO?

Tangible benefits at the expense of what or whom? Or it doesnt matter?

And I'd say religion may have no tangible benefits FOR YOU.

more pseudo-caping from one of the worst fake intellectuals on the board go read a bible, fakkit

The good part is, I've never claimed to be or to not be an "intellectual". I like how you went back and added the insult too lol. Must have hit a nerve huh? You can do better than "fakkit" right, cac?

 

[the cac mamba]

Tangible benefits at the expense of what or whom? Or it doesnt matter?

And I'd say religion may have no tangible benefits FOR YOU.



The good part is, I've never claimed to be or to not be an "intellectual". I like how you went back and added the insult too lol. Must have hit a nerve huh? You can do better than "fakkit" right, cac?

religion has no tangible benefits for you either, they only exist in your mind. and charity doesnt count because you can give to charity for reasons other than trying to get in good with your space daddy

you stay giving vague responses that eventually revert back to "its in the bible', which makes it trash posting

 

[Everythingg]

religion has no tangible benefits for you either, they only exist in your mind. and charity doesnt count because you can give to charity for reasons other than trying to get in good with your space daddy

Well I dont necessarily ascribe to a religion. I guess the closest would be Judaism, but even they add onto what they're SUPPOSED to be following like most (if not all) religions do that include a "holy" text.

I can definitely say that since I took a more personal approach to faith (instead of the outward "I go to church" type or vocally ascribing to be of a religion but not personally following it) in God, that my life has definitely been on the up and up. Not just physically, but spiritually. I guess I can say that I feel God's presence moreso than I did in the past. Now people will say "its all in your mind". But my mind has no control over things happening outside of me.

you stay giving vague responses that eventually revert back to "its in the bible', which makes it trash posting

Just because you dont understand, doesnt mean the responses are vague. I think I explain what I can thoroughly enough. Its just that something is blocking YOU from believing what I say. Now it could simply be your free will to decide NOT to believe. Or it could be your bias. Or your experiences. I dont know what it is honestly but I do hope that one day you reconsider at the very least, God's existence. Maybe you will, maybe you wont. But as time goes on I think you'll see this world make a turn for the worse (if you're around my age that is).

 

[the cac mamba]

But as time goes on I think you'll see this world make a turn for the worse (if you're around my age that is).

i agree

 

[joeychizzle]

I agree. Just see alot of complaining about religion and not the TRUE problem in this world


At the expense of something right?

People complain about their financial situations just as much. Not a day will go by when you don't walk down the street and hear someone talking about how their bills are late, or they can't afford this, that. People choose to squander their earnings, and if you attempt to advise them on their monetary expenditures, it will fall on nothing but deaf ears.

Religion, however, I feel, is a more pressing issue - it affects our understanding of the world (or misunderstanding), can affect human lives (religion based diets, refusal to receive medical treatment, etc), and in my personal view, is actively holding back mankind from becoming one and advancing as a unit, rather that dispersed segments that constantly contradict and bring each other down. Believing in religion persuades one to subscribe to the idea that the universe revolves around us, and we are the ultimate centre of it all. Centuries ago, we KNEW the earth was flat. A few centuries after that we KNEW we were the centre of the solar system. What we know now is the complete opposite. We are but cosmic dust mites, in the grander scheme of things. To insinuate that there is a higher being that created one planet and only one planet of life, seems absurd. What if we discover aliens? Are they too the design and work of God?
What we knew back then, does not hold true now.

Curious how in the modern age where everything is quantified and recorded, there are no more grand miracles such as the parting of the Seas, or healing of the lame.

pertaining to your second reply, it is merely at the expense of time. spiritual enlightenment is a choice, not a requirement - religious individuals have an unfortunate knack for pushing this upon us. Many live happy, fulfilling lives without a shed of religion.

But.. I shall not stop you from believing - as long as it makes you a better person.

you're talking about it, therefore it's a thing you must know exists

Breh don't tell me you've turned religious.. from what I remember of your posts you seemed solidly against the concept of religion