This "Jesus Camp" documentary is frightening

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Any self-aware individual would not fail to realize that our obsession with material wealth borders on religious frenzy. And yet.. One feeds us with tangible subsistence, real houses, real clothing, and real water. The other promises paradise in eternity and glory, but provides nothing but emotional security and a sense of supreme superiority over nonbelievers.

 

[tmonster]

But as time goes on I think you'll see this world make a turn for the worse (if you're around my age that is).

the trend says otherwise
take any relevant marker you want, except for maybe environmentalism

 

[tmonster]

Breh don't tell me you've turned religious.. from what I remember of your posts you seemed solidly against the concept of religion

just lobbing softballs, wanted to show our resident apologist that anyone can type this triteness

 

[Everythingg]

People complain about their financial situations just as much. Not a day will go by when you don't walk down the street and hear someone talking about how their bills are late, or they can't afford this, that. People choose to squander their earnings, and if you attempt to advise them on their monetary expenditures, it will fall on nothing but deaf ears.

I agree with every single sentence in this quote. But its irrelevant. Because it doesnt address the CRUX of the problem with capitalism. And thats what I meant. People (at times) ignore whats wrong with this world.

Religion, however, I feel, is a more pressing issue - it affects our understanding of the world (or misunderstanding), can affect human lives (religion based diets, refusal to receive medical treatment, etc), and in my personal view, is actively holding back mankind from becoming one and advancing as a unit, rather that dispersed segments that constantly contradict and bring each other down. Believing in religion persuades one to subscribe to the idea that the universe revolves around us, and we are the ultimate centre of it all. Centuries ago, we KNEW the earth was flat. A few centuries after that we KNEW we were the centre of the solar system. What we know now is the complete opposite. We are but cosmic dust mites, in the grander scheme of things. To insinuate that there is a higher being that created one planet and only one planet of life, seems absurd. What if we discover aliens? Are they too the design and work of God?
What we knew back then, does not hold true now.

So thats a more pressing issue than certain families banking countries and their wars? You dont see it a more pressing issue that we know of "bread and circuses" that Romans used to put on for their constituents to distract them, but STILL allow this to happen today where celebrity "issues" are more pronounced than social ones? You dont see it as a more pressing issue that most of the country gets their news and information about the world from a media structure that is owned mainly by 10 or so companies?

Religion was and is used as a tool for control. Nobody's denying that. But at the end of the day, THIS EXISTENCE does revolve around us. Nowhere in the bible (or the Quran if Im not mistaken, not to mention Buddhism, Hinduism from what I've seen)does it suggest we are the center of the universe and that the universe revolves around us. So people USING religion to meet an often hidden goal, isnt the same as casting away at religion and the people in it which seems to go on nowadays. GET AT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. The adherents finding relief in their respective religions (though I do not believe they're all "right") is not the problem.

If you can find me one verse that exemplifies WHY we should reject OBVIOUS advances that have come throughout human history, Im all ears. But I dont think the bible suggests that when a person can be helped by another person, that the other person should just sit and pray. Again, if there is something Im missing feel free to bring it to the table. From my perception, thats just people misinterpreting what the Word teaches because of man-made "organized" religion that has affected people's perception.

Curious how in the modern age where everything is quantified and recorded, there are no more grand miracles such as the parting of the Seas, or healing of the lame.

I guess God Almighty chooses who He chooses and has mercy on who He has mercy on. I know I've seen things happen before my eyes...

And didnt the "modern age" record Israel becoming a nation again? Or for some reason that wouldnt count as a "grand miracle" that a nation was wiped from existence, scattered, then regathered again to the same land? All as some ancient book full of people that allegedly did not know what they were talking about said?

pertaining to your second reply, it is merely at the expense of time. spiritual enlightenment is a choice, not a requirement - religious individuals have an unfortunate knack for pushing this upon us. Many live happy, fulfilling lives without a shed of religion.

Not to compare atheists to drug addicts, but drug addicts (at times) feel like they're living "happy, fulfilling lives" as well. But in all actuality, we see they're not. Now with atheists? They may not see that till after this life. But for the ones taking such a staunch stance in atheism and often mocking God, I think they'll see they made the wrong choice.

One will probably say "you dont know that though" and they're right. But I do know God exists. Thats why I know its the BETTER choice to follow His ways over following man's ways. Because man is often led astray.

 

[Everythingg]

i agree

Why?

 

[Everythingg]

the trend says otherwise
take any relevant marker you want, except for maybe environmentalism

No not "maybe" environmentalism.

Theres your marker. Go!

 

[dennis roadman]

i love jesus camp because it gave us this gif

continue on with pascal's wager now

 

[tmonster]

No not "maybe" environmentalism.

Theres your marker. Go!

it's the only one you can point to
go!

 

[the cac mamba]

Why?

economics, lack of resources (something your hoe of a god would be able to correct if he was real), and other things that have nothing to do with the bible

 

[the cac mamba]

One will probably say "you dont know that though" and they're right. But I do know God exists.

no, you dont. youre a human like the rest of us, who isnt privy to that knowledge. but way to put your arrogance on display

"Not to compare atheists to drug addicts, but drug addicts (at times) feel like they're living "happy, fulfilling lives" as well. But in all actuality, we see they're not. Now with atheists? They may not see that till after this life. But for the ones taking such a staunch stance in atheism and often mocking God, I think they'll see they made the wrong choice."

interesting, because much like a drug addict, a typical religious fool uses their religion (drug) to escape reality

its also interesting to note that the atheists mocking god would, by default, have to be joined by the billions of people who chose to worship "other gods before me" fukkin clown

 

[Matt504]

this is their response to Islam.

Islam produces believers with more faith than Christians typically have, cacs would love if Americans were willing to die for Jesus the way "terrorists" are willing to do for Allah.

 

[Everythingg]

economics

Economics is a man-made concept.

True or false?

lack of resources

Just to make sure I have this right. You're blaming God for humans misusing resources?

 

[Everythingg]

it's the only one you can point to
go!

You asked for a marker and theres one. It is one right? We are getting worse environmentally wise correct?

 

[the cac mamba]

Economics is a man-made concept.

True or false?



Just to make sure I have this right. You're blaming God for humans misusing resources?

true

im wondering why he can create the universe in 7 days but he cant snap his fingers n clean up a few rivers

 

[Everythingg]

no, you dont.

Yes. Yes I do.

youre a human like the rest of us,

Just because Im human, doesnt mean God Almighty looks at me in the same light as He looks at you.

"Not to compare atheists to drug addicts, but drug addicts (at times) feel like they're living "happy, fulfilling lives" as well. But in all actuality, we see they're not. Now with atheists? They may not see that till after this life. But for the ones taking such a staunch stance in atheism and often mocking God, I think they'll see they made the wrong choice."

interesting, because much like a drug addict, a typical religious fool uses their religion (drug) to escape reality

I'd say its about TRANSCENDING this reality instead of escaping. In other words, maintaining the desire for SPIRITUAL growth over MATERIAL growth.

its also interesting to note that the atheists mocking god would, by default, have to be joined by the billions of people who chose to worship "other gods before me" fukkin clown

I'd also say, that an atheist that not only disbelieves, but also mocks God is a lot different than a person that believes in another being other than God because of their human traditions (religion). Yep.