This "VOICE" Program by Trump is the most dangerous thing I've EVER seen

Maschine_Man

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What is difference in this and "hate crime" laws, if anything its just an expanded ability to prosecute under hate crime statue, thats the real issue. Its an expansion of the status quo.
part of VOICE is to "reallocate outreach and advocacy resources for illegal aliens to victims of illegal immigrant crime"

I think ppl are conflating VOICE itself to the overall policies on illegal immigration.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/f...ation-Laws-to-Serve-the-National-Interest.pdf

D. Establishing the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office

Criminal aliens routinely victimize Americans and other legal residents. Often, these victims are not provided adequate information about the offender, the offender's immigration status, or any enforcement action taken by ICE against the offender. Efforts by ICE to engage these victims have been hampered by prior Department of Homeland Security (DHS) policy extending certain Privacy Act protections to persons other than U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, leaving victims feeling marginalized and without a voice. Accordingly, I am establishing the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office within the Office of 4 the Director of ICE, which will create a programmatic liaison between ICE and the known victims of crimes committed by removable aliens. The liaison will facilitate engagement with the victims and their families to ensure, to the extent permitted by law, that they are provided information about the offender, including the offender's immigration status and custody status, and that their questions and concerns regarding immigration enforcement efforts are addressed.

To that end, I direct the Director of ICE to immediately reallocate any and all resources that are currently used to advocate on behalf of illegal aliens (except as necessary to comply with a judicial order) to the new VOICE Office, and to immediately terminate the provision of such outreach or advocacy services to illegal aliens.

Nothing herein may be construed to authorize disclosures that are prohibited by law or may relate to information that is Classified, Sensitive but Unclassified (SBU), Law Enforcement Sensitive (LES), For Official Use Only (FOUO), or similarly designated information that may relate to national security, law enforcement, or intelligence programs or operations, or disclosures that are reasonably likely to cause harm to any person.


Once again, the coli alarmists are failing to realize what this actual policy is about, and instead of looking it up and doing any research they are just going to jump on the train and keep pushing ignorance.

but it's not just the coli, they are being played again, by the outraged media that pushes this dumb shyt

and to those on the coli that keep biting...
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I mean it says VICTIMS right in the fukking title......
 

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Theres a middle ground between calling all illegals sleeper agent rapists and angelic creatures deserving rest and shelter.
You're right there is a middle ground on this issue, it's called not being a fukkn xenophobe who shyts on immigrants and puts up false and misleading information.

The question is when have you ever been a part of this middle ground?

You don't get to be a fanatic about immigration one day, then hide under the bed when you realize you've been on the side of Nazi's since day 1. Especially when you've been told the errors of your ways repeatedly.

This is your bed. Lie in it.
 

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You're right there is a middle ground on this issue, it's called not being a fukkn xenophobe who shyts on immigrants and puts up false and misleading information.

The question is when have you ever been a part of this middle ground?

You don't get to be a fanatic about immigration one day, then hide under the bed when you realize you've been on the side of Nazi's since day 1. Especially when you've been told the errors of your ways repeatedly.

This is your bed. Lie in it.
Tell me where I advocated for any of the straw man you're defending.

Don't be intellectually lazy.
 
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part of VOICE is to "reallocate outreach and advocacy resources for illegal aliens to victims of illegal immigrant crime"

I think ppl are conflating VOICE itself to the overall policies on illegal immigration.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/f...ation-Laws-to-Serve-the-National-Interest.pdf

D. Establishing the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office

Criminal aliens routinely victimize Americans and other legal residents. Often, these victims are not provided adequate information about the offender, the offender's immigration status, or any enforcement action taken by ICE against the offender. Efforts by ICE to engage these victims have been hampered by prior Department of Homeland Security (DHS) policy extending certain Privacy Act protections to persons other than U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents, leaving victims feeling marginalized and without a voice. Accordingly, I am establishing the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) Office within the Office of 4 the Director of ICE, which will create a programmatic liaison between ICE and the known victims of crimes committed by removable aliens. The liaison will facilitate engagement with the victims and their families to ensure, to the extent permitted by law, that they are provided information about the offender, including the offender's immigration status and custody status, and that their questions and concerns regarding immigration enforcement efforts are addressed.

To that end, I direct the Director of ICE to immediately reallocate any and all resources that are currently used to advocate on behalf of illegal aliens (except as necessary to comply with a judicial order) to the new VOICE Office, and to immediately terminate the provision of such outreach or advocacy services to illegal aliens.

Nothing herein may be construed to authorize disclosures that are prohibited by law or may relate to information that is Classified, Sensitive but Unclassified (SBU), Law Enforcement Sensitive (LES), For Official Use Only (FOUO), or similarly designated information that may relate to national security, law enforcement, or intelligence programs or operations, or disclosures that are reasonably likely to cause harm to any person.


Once again, the coli alarmists are failing to realize what this actual policy is about, and instead of looking it up and doing any research they are just going to jump on the train and keep pushing ignorance.

but it's not just the coli, they are being played again, by the outraged media that pushes this dumb shyt

and to those on the coli that keep biting...
zNXvBiNNcrjDW.gif




I mean it says VICTIMS right in the fukking title......
I know you are a troll, but wtf does this post have to do with anything with this being xenophobic and shades of Nazi Germany?
 

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I know you are a troll, but wtf does this post have to do with anything with this being xenophobic and shades of Nazi Germany?
ummm.....did you not see the title of this thread? how am I trolling?


:jbhmm:

I was explaining what VOICE was.....just voice....apparently you are one of the clowns that conflated this with everything else an got played.

congrats bruh.
 

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What is difference in this and "hate crime" laws, if anything its just an expanded ability to prosecute under hate crime statue, thats the real issue. Its an expansion of the status quo.

:mindblown:

I'm not a big fan of hate crime laws but that's an awful comparison.


This would be like if there was a Victims of Black Crime Engagement office.:camby:
 

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This will lead to more hate crimes against minorities whether they're citizens or not. Look at the shooting in Kansas last week. White people in this country see everyone who is not white as foreign.


Anyone defending this is a racist moron. If anyone in this country should understand this it's black people of any descent living in this country.
 

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I'm against this and hate crime legislation. Crime is crime and it sucks to be a victim. Will Voice have teeth like hate crime legislation though?

Edit: Upon further review Voice seems harmless, except for being a waste of money.
 
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