protestor
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I know Bru, I don't why your still posting here. Complete waste of time with these peasants. If I had your intelligence I would leave and never return... Ever.
This "VOICE" Program by Trump is the most dangerous thing I've EVER seen
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I know Bru, I don't why your still posting here. Complete waste of time with these peasants. If I had your intelligence I would leave and never return... Ever.
the cac mamba
Veteran
napoleon is the most fulla shyt poster on this entire site 
i dont give a fukk about illegals, but at least im consistent with it 
i dont like the sound of this though, it's not gonna actually solve anything
i dont give a fukk about illegals, but at least im consistent with it i dont like the sound of this though, it's not gonna actually solve anything
There is already federal legislation aimed at victims' rights and restitution for victims of federal crimes.
Understanding Restitution | USAO-NDGA | Department of Justice
Why does there have to be a specific program aimed at victims of crimes by illegal immigrants?
are ppl really arguing AGAINST helping victims of crime??
but, this is just my way of giving back to people with clear disabilities and those less fortunate. I understand that not everyone is capable of going to school or having an opportunity at higher learning, so I'm here to pitch in. It makes me sleep better at night.
David_TheMan
Banned
Not an awful comparison at all, and your analogy is weak on purpose because you want to ignore the hate crime legislation.
I'm not a big fan of hate crime laws but that's an awful comparison.
This would be like if there was a Victims of Black Crime Engagement office.
I think people are against not enforcing laws that are already in place, and pointless directives for the purpose of firing up your xenophobic base.
The more important question here is this: how often do illegal immigrants commit crimes against citizens, and where is the data that shows that a directive like VOICE is necessary in the first place? What would VOICE do above and beyond current laws covering crimes committed by illegals?
you, admittedly, posted a fraction of the legislation.
So no, you don't know the "actual" layout.
Once again, you're a lying sack of shyt.
What about victims of crime committed by legal immigrants or citizens?
What makes illegals so much more important?
A crime is a crime is a crime.
There is already federal legislation aimed at victims' rights and restitution for victims of federal crimes.
Understanding Restitution | USAO-NDGA | Department of Justice
Why does there have to be a specific program aimed at victims of crimes by illegal immigrants?
Typical red hat response.
No, I'm not against helping victims of crime. But the federal government already has a specific statute for helping victims of crime. Why does there need to be a specific program for helping victims of crime by an illegal immigrant? Any specific form of help should be targeted toward particularly vulnerable victims (think women and children) or particularly contemptible crimes (think sex offenses). But why do we need to target aid specifically toward victims of a crime committed by a person not legally here? Not based on the severity of the crime, not based on the vulnerability of the victim, but on whether the defendant has papers or not?
You fell for the okie-dokie, as always.
apu wants it both ways. i showed him what common sense immigration reform was, without destroying our country. he thought it was too soft.
he'll say "tact" now because he saw his racist cac friend on reddit say it like it means anything here. nah. you were preaching the same rhetoric that got us a target list.
he'll say "tact" now because he saw his racist cac friend on reddit say it like it means anything here. nah. you were preaching the same rhetoric that got us a target list.
The analogy is spot on, replace immigrant with black, jew, muslim etc.
What does hate crime legislation have to do with this?
David_TheMan
Banned
Hate crime covers ethnicity, race, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, and I forgot the other shyt, so black jew muslim are covered under hate crime.
You literally try to shyt on me by bringing up the individual categories covered under hate crime.
Hate crime legislation sets penalties for attacking people based on race/gender etc. I'm generally against them as their redundant and they essentially create thought crimes. Trump is proposing an office to keep track of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants and to afford special protections to the victims of those crimes. It plays into the idea that undocumented immigrants pose some special threat to citizens which runs contrary to all data on the undocumented immigrant crime rate. It's straight out of Nazi Germany.
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