This Woodstock 99 doc on HBO is wild

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Fans will take from films/music what they will. American History X is/was LOVED by a lot of people and not necessarily because of its message. :mjpls::hubie:

Reminds me of all the Watchmen fans angry that the HBO show "ruined" Rorschach when Alan Moore said he wrote the character as a racist right ringer. And the fans were like "So?"
 

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The Titties Segment:I remember seein Titties eywhere in the 94 Show on PPV and I was just :wow::takedat: at that point I was already a Titty Man by the late 80s thanks to Madonna:russ: but Chicks shoulda knew better thinking it was 69/70s Freedom Peace and Love ish walkin around all Topless like that when Girls Gone Wild and Porn was hittin its Peak
 

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But clearly these are the years that low key subvertly began the me too movement years later
 

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The Limp Bizkit segment was captivating

You could see the chaos starting to form :wow::wow:

You got:
Limp Bizkit
Metallica:merchant:
Rage Against The Machine

All in their respective Primes Performing for a majority Cac Base caked in Mud and shyt on a Saturday Night:picard:
 

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Ok…so when Moby speaks during the Kid Rock segment …he basically SAYS EXACTLY WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH EMINEM, kid rock and the rest of so many of those white rappers…. They IGNORE THE FUNK RNB AND SUBTLETIES of HIP HOP and only embrace a bullshyt characture of it…. Hip hop at its core honors Rnb, funk, all black forms before it, sampling for example…. how many cac hip hop artists were able to do that…. Eminem started producing his music in order not too……
 
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Yea that shyt is crazy. Limp bizkit didn't make those people throw shyt at Primus but that's all anybody remembers is people crowd surfing on set pieces during "Break stuff"

Jonathan Davis from korn said Fred started that shyt too

That was Woodstock 94 where Primus performed, they had sort of fizzled out at this point as far as being a mainstream rock band goes.

Ok…so when Moby speaks during the Kid Rock segment …he basically SAYS EXACTLY WHAT THE ISSUE IS WITH EMINEM, kid rock and the rest of so many of those white rappers…. They IGNORE THE FUNK RNB AND SUBTLETIES of HIP HOP and only embrace a bullshyt characture of it…. Hip hop at its core honor Rnb, funk, all black forms before it, sampling for example…. how many cac hip hop artists were able to do that…. Eminem started producing his music in order not too……

Eh I kind of agree that Em does seem to ignore the more soulful aspects of hop hop. but I wouldn't place him in the same category as kid rock, fred durst, etc. I just think his influences outside of hip hop are more in tune with classic rock, like when he does sample, it's mostly older 70's/80's rock artist like Aerosmith or Queen. He's a rapper at heart at the end of the day and he stans older rap artist, whereas Kid Rock and them basically used or exploited rap music to draw off of pop music fans..
 

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The Doc talks about that. They claimed the shift from the progressive/feminist white male fans to the frat boy/misogynist male fans was caused by a mixture of Grunge becoming commercialized and people being disillusioned by it and then the final straw being Cobain's death. I'm not well-versed enough on the history of rock to say whether or not that was true but it seemed like they oversimplified it
shyt music in general I say..

Positive black empowered rap acts weren't pushed by media..music became more sexual..shyt had a 16yr old britney spears dancing provocative in a mini schoolgirl skirt and it was a smash.
 

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Woodstock '89 AKA Woodstock II was the only one that was done right (maybe even better than the OG) my white neighbors heard about it dropped everything they were doing and just went

Everything after that was a commercialized shyt show (woodstock 94' aka mudstock, and woodstock 99 aka rapestock)

its was some really fukked up pictures on the internet of Woodstock 99' back in the day smh
 

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That was Woodstock 94 where Primus performed, they had sort of fizzled out at this point as far as being a mainstream rock band goes.



Eh I kind of agree that Em does seem to ignore the more soulful aspects of hop hop. but I wouldn't place him in the same category as kid rock, fred durst, etc. I just think his influences outside of hip hop are more in tune with classic rock, like when he does sample, it's mostly older 70's/80's rock artist like Aerosmith or Queen. He's a rapper at heart at the end of the day and he stans older rap artist, whereas Kid Rock and them basically used or exploited rap music to draw off of pop music fans..
Eminem was the foundation for kid rock Fred durst etc., …. they were able to stand soundly because of em’s presence



and yea he does stan old hip hop… but so do a large segment of white guys in they 60, 50 and 40’s today…. but cac gon cac
 

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Eminem was the foundation for kid rock Fred durst etc., …. they were able to stand soundly because of em’s presence



and yea he does stan old hip hop… but so do a large segment of white guys in they 60, 50 and 40’s today…. but cac gon cac

Kid Rock was put on by Too Short and was dropping rap songs years before Em put out an album.



Fred Durst /Limp Bizkit was sttuggle rapping on nu metal tracks a couple of years before Em dropped his first album [I'm not counting the Em stuff before SSLP].. You had acts like Rage and Beck doing it before them, he/they an extension of that not Em... tho I do agree that they exploited Em's fan base and were way more popular after his debut as a result

 
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