Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

Is Thomas Sowell right about Welfare?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 32.4%
  • No

    Votes: 12 35.3%
  • Partially right

    Votes: 11 32.4%

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Jhoon

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The government took illiterate urban white boys, gave them uniforms, job training, built them whole exlusive communities snd neighborhoods, gave them loans, education and called it the GI Bill

The post-war boom is the greatest example of generational welfare. Nothing else can ever compare
Look what sowell had to say about blacks at the turn of the 20th century. Blacks that couldnt get benefits were decent. The same benefits that helped one group assimilate is good, but the folks that now sorta benefit, are bad. Son is a fakkit.
 

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Sowell is a libertarian. Thats euphamism for conservative without all the hangups.

Black conservatives are black people who don't really want to acknowledge the present situation.

I respect their...courage to adopt such positions and I know there are a lot of black people who really are conservatives themselves, but their present set of solutions look at the world without context of what it took to get to where we are.
 

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Black conservatives are black people who don't really want to acknowledge the present situation.

I respect their...courage to adopt such positions and I know there are a lot of black people who really are conservatives themselves, but their present set of solutions look at the world without context of what it took to get to where we are.
Look at some black folks and their beliefs. They are qunitesential white male views.
 
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Welfare is a drop in the fukkin bucket yo.
A program largely utilized by poor white people.

You want to help people get on their feet?
Cut back the 700 billion dollar spending each year toward the military and invest that money into schools, manufacturing, infrastructure and social programs that keep kids out of boredom and trouble so they develop skills and get interested in shyt that might propel them to lucrative careers.

Motherfukkers.
Hold up breh, wait until I get out I got bills to pay :whoa:
 

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But would you agree with what he is saying about welfare (it makes excuses for wrong things)?
Not really because when I got out the army recently I was on unemployment I had to find a job within a month because I was getting max money allow due to the fact I was making a decent amount of money and the max unemployment was 350 a week thats for a person married with kids. You can't live off that type of income. That why I had to find a job quick as possible. They only give me 6 months max with no extended time possible. So I don't understand his argument before I got out the army I would have understood what he was saying because I too thought poor people lived like kings on welfare with no time limit. But its definitely different times I think they did the cut-back in 2012 or 2013 a lot of families had been on welfare here in NC for years and they were told they had a limited amount of time to find a job because their were getting cut. All it take is a little research he would have known it's different now.
 

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Partially right for sure. Sowell looks at it from the point of view of a patchwork system in place to substitute for a real change.
Rather than curing the cold, we treat the symptom, so to speak. It depends, especially since the idea of "welfare" covers a
lot of systems in use, like business subsidies and tax credits (debatable).

On one hand, welfare is meant to keep those who are standing just above the cracks from falling into them. It is the bottom-tier
of what is considered acceptable living, and keeps its recipients as such. There was a point where welfare was meant to be
a transitional situation, and not a way of life as a segment of the population use it. However, one would think that rather than dole
out a predetermined amount of cash in exchange for...breathing...every month, the funds and resources would be better spent
largely in exchange for community works leaning toward infrastructure and public services. Something that can put a man to work
and give him skills that can translate when times are better economically for him.

Rather than foodstamps and EBT, we could be looking at federally funded farmers markets (spent locally at mayoral discretion with
the cooperation of Aldermen) to provide fresh food options and not give people free reign to spend good money on cheetos and
arizonas when that cash could have been spent on brocolli and fresh chicken.

The issue then becomes how do you quantify what needs to go where, and who are in need of a handout here, and who needs
a hand-up there. As such, it became easier to just dump funds into blanket programs and let the rats scramble and figure it out.
Welfare isn't the problem, priorities are, those of the recipients and those of the big decision makers.

We could go through a renaissance in the USA if we slashed literal percentage points off the military budget and went county to county,
city to city and gave grants (not loans) to school districts, mental health facilities, community rehabilitation, public construction projects,
etc. The money is there, and it is obvious to anyone who looks at quality of life exactly what areas need more help than others.
The money doesn't have to be given to the people, as many will spend frivolously, but in good faith, it can be done in such a visible way
that any person in need can get access to life-changing opportunities that also directly benefit their community, and not just themselves.
 
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he's wrong. welfare makes nothing worse. which is really social responsibility ( and indirectly helps us all )

But having so called welfare without more focus on Early childhood education and free first two years of college --------- is like giving up on our society.
 

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Do people understand that cutting the milltary budget effects people just as much as it woild cutting welfare?
 
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