Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

[ignorethis]

Because White supremacy is the problem, not welfare. White people are the prime benefactors of welfare than any other race. Why are we not talking about why a 77% majority population consisting of white citizens; who of which have all the money, power, and resources; are also the recipients of the highest welfare cases?

You've already shown you couldn't comprehend that 30% of 30 million is a higher percentage of 40 million compared to 70% of 30million in relation to 140 million

 

[DEAD7]

Not all subsidies are bad. Not all tax credits are bad. Not all welfare is bad. The majority of those government programs arent bad.

The problem with the welfare has ruined the black family crowd is that their emperical proof doesnt exist. But if you want to talk about welfare being used as a clutch, lets talk about corporations. The proof is right there.

 

[ignorethis]

Not all subsidies are bad. Not all tax credits are bad. Not all welfare is bad. The majority of those government programs arent bad.

The problem with the welfare has ruined the black family crowd is that their emperical proof doesnt exist. But if you want to talk about welfare being used as a clutch, lets talk about corporations. The proof is right there.

It's a theory, and what type of empirical proof are we gonna get outside of cutting welfare and seeing what happens over the next couple decades

The funny thing about you bringing up corporations in your argument is that the recent financial collapses were a pretty good example of coporate welfare encouraging detrimental and irresponsible behavior on a macro level with banks making high risk gambles knowing that government had a safety net in place if shyt fukked up. You don't think people who are dumber and have much less to lose would do the same?

 

[Mission249]

Because White supremacy is the problem, not welfare. White people are the prime benefactors of welfare than any other race. Why are we not talking about why a 77% majority population consisting of white citizens; who of which have all the money, power, and resources; are also the recipients of the highest welfare cases?

You're being ignored, for the most part, because nobody wants to come to the kiddie table and explain how math works to you: the majority of a nation, in general, will be the majority of these stats. What you want to focus on is the percentages.

Farm subsidies are welfare too.The loans the USA gives to teh Europeans to cover their debt is welfare. Bailouts are also welfare. Notice how all the aforementioned people utilize welfare to better their circumstances -- but nevertheless collect welfare. Where is the railing?

People rail against things like farm subsidies and corporate bailouts all the time. You just have to look. We need to be able to address specific ideas on their failings or merits without the perennial point-in-some-other-direction-and say-"That thing over there is worse!" Not saying it's impossible to tie these things together, but most of the time it's just shallow deflection. If the argument is weak, then just attack the argument.

I think the problem is how the welfare money is spent and whether the programs the USA spends its money on actually work. The problem I see is that there isn't any initiative to truly explore ways to help the poor because middle class and higher cacs don't care about poor people (especially blacks). So long as the upper class can live in their sequestered little gated villages, they could care less what happens elsewhere.

I agree. But I think the problem is slightly deeper: how exactly do we measure if a program "works"? What is "works"? Fixes all of society's ills? I think there needs to be more of a scientific method applied here. What exact metrics are we trying to improve, with what money and over what time period? Easier said than done tho.

 

[TRY GOD]

You've already shown you couldn't comprehend that 30% of 30 million is a higher percentage of 40 million compared to 70% of 30million in relation to 140 million

WHERE IS YOUR MATH FROM, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR NUMBERS?!

Is 13% higher than 77% in 2015?

You're being ignored, for the most part, because nobody wants to come to the kiddie table and explain how math works to you: the majority of a nation, in general, will be the majority of these stats. What you want to focus on is the percentages.

How does a percentage, of a percentage of Black people, whose population is at 13%, OUTNUMBER a percentage of 77% of a population?

Do yall nikkas know how math works?

What does proportions matter when the majority of a population has a higher number of people on welfare all together?


Why do White people who have all the wealth and power STILL continue to be the main benefactors of welfare?

I'm being ignored because NO ONE CAN ANSWER ME, BECAUSE NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I HAVE YET TO BE PROVED WRONG.

@DEAD7 @acewonders @OrdellRobbie

 

[William F. Russell]

@Wenzel Dashington is going full retard because of his lack of comprehending how statistics work.

 

[TRY GOD]

@Wenzel Dashington is going full retard because of his lack of comprehending how statistics work.

You've already shown you couldn't comprehend that 30% of 30 million is a higher percentage of 40 million compared to 70% of 30million in relation to 140 million

Lets Use your fake numbers you have no proof of up against the US Census FACTS: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

Population, 2013 estimate_________________________ 316,128,839
White alone, percent, 2013 (a)______________________ 77 (243,419,206)
Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a)_______13%(41,096,749)

Igot my numbers directly from the government, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOURS?

iF WHITES RECEIVE THE MOST WELFARE, WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM USING UP ALL THE WELFARE WHEN THEY HAVE WEALTH AND POWER AT THEIR DISPOSIAL.

NO ONE HAS ANSWERED THIS. ALOT OF DEFLECTIONS THO.

 

[acri1]

I really, really don't get how people are deluding themselves into thinking that nyggas want to be on welfare and that it's somehow "getting over".

People out here having to do all kinds of unpleasant volunteer work (a lot of it being cleaning and physical labor) for a couple hundred a month and people are convincing themselves that they're "lazy"? You'd have to be pretty intent on bashing black people do to convince yourself that. Welfare isn't very easy to get these days, and most real jobs are less work (and pay more). People don't WANT to be on welfare and they're certainly not eating well off it.


Sad to see (supposedly) black people internalizing Reagan's "Welfare queen" stereotypes as if they represent reality.

 

[Marciano]

Welfare is a drop in the fukkin bucket yo.
A program largely utilized by poor white people.

You want to help people get on their feet?
Cut back the 700 billion dollar spending each year toward the military and invest that money into schools, manufacturing, infrastructure and social programs that keep kids out of boredom and trouble so they develop skills and get interested in shyt that might propel them to lucrative careers.

Motherfukkers.

True ish....

Not only does America spend so much on military to flex muscles around the world, it also seems like they (consciously or unconsciously) rather spend the money on military rather than social programs for bored kids so they'll end up joining the military anyway or do nothing with their lives.

 

[feelosofer]

See, I think that Thomas Sewell is trying to link welfare to the grand narrative of Black underachievement and while I do think that welfare does come with some issues. I think the bigger problem for us is the lack of access to quality education and facilities therefore allowing ourselves to elevate and to close this achievement gap. I think that if President Obama can come through with his education reform, then that would be enormous because it would allow so many young Black men and women to go to school in County college or pursue trades and apprenticeships. I don't know if you can just cut the legs off welfare recipients and tell them to walk. Furthermore rises in the cost of living makes it difficult for recipients to live off that. Best believe 750 a month isn't coming close to feeding and clothing a woman with 2 kids to feed.

 

[TRY GOD]

True ish....

Not only does America spend so much on military to flex muscles around the world, it also seems like they (consciously or unconsciously) rather spend the money on military rather than social programs for bored kids so they'll end up joining the military anyway or do nothing with their lives.

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[ignorethis]

See, I think that Thomas Sewell is trying to link welfare to the grand narrative of Black underachievement and while I do think that welfare does come with some issues. I think the bigger problem for us is the lack of access to quality education and facilities therefore allowing ourselves to elevate and to close this achievement gap. I think that if President Obama can come through with his education reform, then that would be enormous because it would allow so many young Black men and women to go to school in County college or pursue trades and apprenticeships. I don't know if you can just cut the legs off welfare recipients and tell them to walk. Furthermore rises in the cost of living makes it difficult for recipients to live off that. Best believe 750 a month isn't coming close to feeding and clothing a woman with 2 kids to feed.

I agree with you on this, no compassionate person would say lets just cut off welfare, because it would leave a lot of people in bad situations assed out. Hell even in the video in the OP, Thomas tiptoed around answering Helen's question about "What would happen if we cut off Welfare tomorrow?"

But the point remains that a lot of people allowed themselves to end up in these bad scenarios because of the safety net of welfare, and our currently welfare system is not forcing them to fix those bad decisions and habits, so they continue from generation to generation.

 

[DEAD7]

WHERE IS YOUR MATH FROM, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR NUMBERS?!

Is 13% higher than 77% in 2015?

How does a percentage, of a percentage of Black people, whose population is at 13%, OUTNUMBER a percentage of 77% of a population?

Do yall nikkas know how math works?

What does proportions matter when the majority of a population has a higher number of people on welfare all together?


Why do White people who have all the wealth and power STILL continue to be the main benefactors of welfare?

I'm being ignored because NO ONE CAN ANSWER ME, BECAUSE NONE OF YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS.

I HAVE YET TO BE PROVED WRONG.

@DEAD7 @acewonders @OrdellRobbie

 

[TRY GOD]

is this account an alias? fukking CACs Tariq WARNED me about you cracka trolls

 

[TRY GOD]

IS this a @bdizzle alias?

@Meadow