Thomas Sowell: Welfare makes excuses for things that are wrong.

[William F. Russell]

1900s - 1950s were such great times for black people when we knew our place.

1900s-1950s were great times for black people because the black family unit remained intact and had elevated standards, despite the presence of racism.

Stop putting words in Sowell's mouth. He never denied the presence of racism and even acknowledged in in his quote.

Learn to connect the dots instead of coloring outside of the lines.

 

[Opus]

OK, but maybe in his opinion (and this is likely the case), welfare impacts the black community more than the g.i. bill and redlining.

You're unnecessarily conflating the issue of whether welfare adversely affects the black community by introducing redlining, the g.i. bill, etc.

I'm not conflating shyt. I disagree with him. This arguments a tempest in a teapot. I'm offering these other issues because in my opinion they affect the black community much more than welfare.

Moreover, his argument is circuitous as fukk. It's not welfare directly, it's welfare when introduced to ******s. Because everyone has access to welfare it's the ******s that use it to do nothing else. And why is that Thomas? Because ******s have a shyt culture. It's a two off crap shoot and I'm sure he's happy to be the one or two c00ns arguing it so he can be their tap dance monkey. Most serious intellectuals wouldn't blame culture for 33 to 1 white to black millionaire ratio. They'd look at overt policies that directly prevent wealth accumulation. I mean, what's a good economist doing delving into the muck of social science and speculating about a peoples culture or ethic? Redlining is right up an economists alley

 

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To answer your question, Welfare is a burden in the black community because of WHITE SUPREMACY.

WHITE SUPREMACY has posters saying Welfare is a problem for people who don't even use most of it, while white People who are 77% of the population, are benefactors of welfare.

WHITE SUPREMACY allows Whites the ability to hog the resources welfare provides to make their race more productive citizens.

WHITE SUPREMACY allows whites to use rhetoric about proportions to deflect from the real problem (white supremacy)



@SuperCoolP_Cal are you gonna ignore the simple questions I asked you?

 

[Robbie3000]

1900s-1950s were great times for black people because the black family unit remained intact and had elevated standards, despite the presence of racism.

Stop putting words in Sowell's mouth. He never denied the presence of racism and even acknowledged in in his quote.

Learn to connect the dots instead of coloring outside of the lines.

What do you mean by elevated standards?

Anyway, despite Sowell's pining for the good old days when most black people worked in low level service jobs like shoe shiners or as domestic help and were largely marginalized from participating in mainstream American economy, I would bet not a single black would go back to those days, Including Sowell.

 

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[William F. Russell]

What do you mean by elevated standards?

Anyway, despite Sowell's pining for the good old days when most black people worked in low level service jobs like shoe shiners or as domestic help and were largely marginalized from participating in mainstream American economy, I would bet not a single black would go back to those days, Including Sowell.

Where are you getting this from?

 

[Robbie3000]

Where are you getting this from?

People have no idea that the black community in the first half of the 20th century was from the point of view of common decency miles ahead of the ghettos of today, especially places like Ferguson. Harlem in the 1920s was a place where many whites, including many white celebrities, frequented. And it was not only for the entertainment places like the Cotton Club and so on, but places where they met with the black elite of that time. Back then, no one worried about being mugged. I was a grocery delivery boy in that area. On Saturday nights I’d work until midnight and then I’d walk home. I weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet, yet no one ever bothered me, no policeman ever stopped me. This notion that you have to be afraid of the cops, they’re out to get you and so forth, there was nothing of that sort.

The blacks in first half of the 20th century had a decency that is long since gone, but they had that at a time when they were even closer to the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow than are blacks today."

 

[William F. Russell]

People have no idea that the black community in the first half of the 20th century was from the point of view of common decency miles ahead of the ghettos of today, especially places like Ferguson. Harlem in the 1920s was a place where many whites, including many white celebrities, frequented. And it was not only for the entertainment places like the Cotton Club and so on, but places where they met with the black elite of that time. Back then, no one worried about being mugged. I was a grocery delivery boy in that area. On Saturday nights I’d work until midnight and then I’d walk home. I weighed about 100 pounds soaking wet, yet no one ever bothered me, no policeman ever stopped me. This notion that you have to be afraid of the cops, they’re out to get you and so forth, there was nothing of that sort.

The blacks in first half of the 20th century had a decency that is long since gone, but they had that at a time when they were even closer to the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow than are blacks today."

Entire quote =/= "good old days when most black people worked in low level service jobs like shoe shiners or as domestic help and were largely marginalized from participating in mainstream American economy"

Try again.

 

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[William F. Russell]

Take this before you go

Full retard.


Get off whatever mollies, meds you're on.

 

[Robbie3000]

Entire quote =/= "good old days when most black people worked in low level service jobs like shoe shiners or as domestic help and were largely marginalized from participating in mainstream American economy"

Try again.

Sowell is arguing that black people were better off in the first half of this century in terms of "common decency" (whatever that means). Then liberal policies came along and.... destroyed the black community. That's basically what his argument boils down to... I'm sarcastically pointing out that he is wrong. Black people are better off by most measures than they were in the 1940s when they were marginalized and completely shut off from fully participating in society.

Sowell tries to paint a rosy picture of the first half of this century by making baseless claims like "Back then, no one worried about being mugged"

A look at crime rates in the 1920s and 1930s would show that he is completely wrong. As of 2011, homicide rates were lower than in 1950. The high incarceration of blacks today can be directly traced to the bogus war on drugs which ironically was motivated by the fear of black men.

" this notion that you have to be afraid of the cops, they’re out to get you and so forth, there was nothing of that sort."

Yeah black people didn't fear the cops even with the high rates of hangings in the south which were implicitly or explicitly allowed by law enforcement and the courts. Yeah black people were best friends with the cops and Ferguson like incidents never happened.


But history doesn't matter much to the likes of Thomas Sowell unless he wants to bash social programs that he doesn't agree with. The fact that he argues 350 years of slavery, failed reconstruction, Jim Crow have had less an impact on black communities today than welfare legislation passed in the 60s is just laughable.



Thomas Sowell is the type of defeated black man that will go to any lengths to defend the power structure and make excuses for atrocities committed against black people in the history of this country.

 

[BDsavage92]

1900s - 1950s were such great times for black people when we knew our place.

Sowell wasn't saying that

 

[JBoy]

Sowell is arguing that black people were better off in the first half of this century in terms of "common decency" (whatever that means). Then liberal policies came along and.... destroyed the black community. That's basically what his argument boils down to... I'm sarcastically pointing out that he is wrong. Black people are better off by most measures than they were in the 1940s when they were marginalized and completely shut off from fully participating in society.

Sowell tries to paint a rosy picture of the first half of this century by making baseless claims like "Back then, no one worried about being mugged"

A look at crime rates in the 1920s and 1930s would show that he is completely wrong. As of 2011, homicide rates were lower than in 1950. The high incarceration of blacks today can be directly traced to the bogus war on drugs which ironically was motivated by the fear of black men.

" this notion that you have to be afraid of the cops, they’re out to get you and so forth, there was nothing of that sort."

Yeah black people didn't fear the cops even with the high rates of hangings in the south which were implicitly or explicitly allowed by law enforcement and the courts. Yeah black people were best friends with the cops and Ferguson like incidents never happened.


But history doesn't matter much to the likes of Thomas Sowell unless he wants to bash social programs that he doesn't agree with. The fact that he argues 350 years of slavery, failed reconstruction, Jim Crow have had less an impact on black communities today than welfare legislation passed in the 60s is just laughable.



Thomas Sowell is the type of defeated black man that will go to any lengths to defend the power structure and make excuses for atrocities committed against black people in the history of this country.

dropped the mic on em

 

[William F. Russell]

Sowell is arguing that black people were better off in the first half of this century in terms of "common decency" (whatever that means). Then liberal policies came along and.... destroyed the black community. That's basically what his argument boils down to... I'm sarcastically pointing out that he is wrong. Black people are better off by most measures than they were in the 1940s when they were marginalized and completely shut off from fully participating in society.

Sowell tries to paint a rosy picture of the first half of this century by making baseless claims like "Back then, no one worried about being mugged"

A look at crime rates in the 1920s and 1930s would show that he is completely wrong. As of 2011, homicide rates were lower than in 1950. The high incarceration of blacks today can be directly traced to the bogus war on drugs which ironically was motivated by the fear of black men.

" this notion that you have to be afraid of the cops, they’re out to get you and so forth, there was nothing of that sort."

Yeah black people didn't fear the cops even with the high rates of hangings in the south which were implicitly or explicitly allowed by law enforcement and the courts. Yeah black people were best friends with the cops and Ferguson like incidents never happened.


But history doesn't matter much to the likes of Thomas Sowell unless he wants to bash social programs that he doesn't agree with. The fact that he argues 350 years of slavery, failed reconstruction, Jim Crow have had less an impact on black communities today than welfare legislation passed in the 60s is just laughable.



Thomas Sowell is the type of defeated black man that will go to any lengths to defend the power structure and make excuses for atrocities committed against black people in the history of this country.

Focus on an inconsequential anecdote and go ham, brehs...

I thought he was zeroing in on how welfare crippled many black people's incentive to work and provide for their families while simultaneously breaking up the black family unit.....but ok.....