*THREAD SPINOFF* What made you an atheist or agnostic?

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Exactly. God = the 3 O's.

Omnipotent (all powerful), Omniscient (all knowing), and Omnibenevolent (all good/loving).

How could you stand by and let some of the shyt that happens, happen? It's all fun and games until you realize damn near everything that could happen almost has happened.

I heard a story of a woman who put her baby in a microwave. :to: What if that was my daughter? Nah man, free will or not, if I could stop shyt that that from happening I would. Whats the lesson in shyt like that?

that free will stuff is bs too, if we are in fact pre ordained to go to hell or heaven from the beginning of existence anyway...
 

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that free will stuff is bs too, if we are in fact pre ordained to go to hell or heaven from the beginning of existence anyway...
Neuroscience has
Exactly. God = the 3 O's.

Omnipotent (all powerful), Omniscient (all knowing), and Omnibenevolent (all good/loving).

How could you stand by and let some of the shyt that happens, happen? It's all fun and games until you realize damn near everything that could happen almost has happened.

I heard a story of a woman who put her baby in a microwave. :to: What if that was my daughter? Nah man, free will or not, if I could stop shyt that that from happening I would. Whats the lesson in shyt like that?

Do you really want to know? :mjpls:
 

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The bible says bats are the same thing as birds fam :dead:

:mjlol: + :wow: at you using this same clown shyt in FOUR different threads.

The bible calls bats, birds.

fukk outta here.

The bible is SUCH a teaching tool that it tells us that Bats are the Same as Birds and that Pi equals EXACTLY Three. Not to mention the whole creation story says 4 days passed before there was even an earth to revolve around a sun. :heh: :mjpls:
is this the same book that called "Bats" the same thing as "birds?"

You're a desperate clown. :huhldup:
 

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neuroscience has what?

also i know whats the lesson

all part of gads planz :mjlol:
Oh...didn't finish the sentence.

I'ms saying theres some interesting neuroscience arguments that suggest free will doesn't exist in the notion that stimuli causes you to react in manners you may not truly be in complete control of...its a nuanced argument though :sas2:
 

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. As Christians our main goal is to evangelize or spread the good word. Now I know there are many out there that take this to the extreme and over do it but atheists and agnostics are always quick to call people who have religion (especially Christians) slaves, or brainwashed, or fools. Yet ya'll get on us for judging you for not believing or wondering if God is real :beli:. My thing is everybody has a right to believe in what they want to :ufdup:. It seems like atheists are some of the most closed minded people on Earth cuz they want proof of everything. I'm a Christian but I've been open minded and have wondered a lot of things but thats where faith comes in. So let me ask do you atheists or agnostics believe in faith? :patrice:

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There are more religious people than non religious people. Do questions really shake your faith that much?
 

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No one thing made me atheist. It's a series of things, mostly tied to my personality. I'm an inquisitive and curious person. I read a lot, I explore a lot, I think a lot. When I was a kid I believe in God, but I think to my credit, the church I attended - stuck with a revolving number of pastors (we went through three-five pastors in less than three years, most of them interim pastors) - never really drilled in my indoctrination. When the children sang at church, I didn't sing because it didn't feel right and I didn't like being told to do something just because people tell me to do it. This is crucial, later on.

I went to summer church camps, I was a leader within my church's youth group. One time at a camp, we were told specifically not to research or read about other religions because they'd lead you away from God. Thing is, in 6th grade, we learned Greek mythology and I loved it. It was my first exposure to a religion that wasn't Christianity. The teacher told me that people really don't believe in it anymore. At that point I started to question the validity of Christianity. Still, I was a pre-teen, and like any pre-teen in the south I would dutifully attend church. Plus, being told to not read about religions felt like a weakness to me. If Christianity was true, why should it matter? More than that, why is wanting to learn more about our world a bad thing exactly?

It was around High School when I started to question the religion in full. I read some of the Bible, and found it so reprehensible and was so shocked that people called this God a good guy. I ended still attending church, and I questioned my belief in God heavily. I'd ask church friends if they too ever had doubts. They said no, and this only served to make me feel abnormal. I didn't realize it then, as this was the early 2000's and I had never heard of the word, but by that point I was full on agnostic. I didn't know what to believe. When I got into college, I was accepted into Barton College. It's a private school in North Carolina owned by the Christian denomination Disciples of Christ. Texas Christian University and others are also in this same group. Though owned, DoC schools aren't church colleges and remain secular. Still, I got in with a Disciples of Christ scholarship due to my work as a leader when I was a teenager. Even though I was in a church group and had to go to weekly church group meetings and stuff, I never attended church, not once during college.

It was at that point I realized I didn't believe in God. But I couldn't come to terms with it at all. Everyone I knew was Christian, and my whole family was Christian. What would it mean if I didn't believe in it? A few years of religious experimentation and a huge existential crisis led me to pursue philosophy. Through philosophy and intellectual curiosity I was able to finally shed my religious baggage and accept who I was: a non-believer. I still show religions respect, but if asked I will say that I don't believe. After that realization it felt like there was a huge load off my shoulders. I was now free to express my own opinions and my views and live my own life without some eternal judging guardian.

For the first time in my life, philosophically and ethically speaking, I was free.
 
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