*THREAD SPINOFF* What made you an atheist or agnostic?

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

clearly you don't read...I gave the example with the car crash but here's another one. Lets say you have cancer, its spreading rapidly and you think its your time to check out but all of a sudden one day it goes into remission to the point its gone or you've been jobless for a while and your savings is bone dry. You've been applying for 6 months and nothing but right when you think there is no hope you get a call from an employer to bring you on....those aren't coincidences my friend

That's called shyt happens.
How is me applying for a job for 6 months then all of a sudden getting a call means it's god?

 

[The Don]

How do you know they aren't coincidences? Especially when millions die of cancer every year.

That's called shyt happens.
How is me applying for a job for 6 months then all of a sudden getting a call means it's god?

the ignorance in these posts is sad your reasoning is "millions die of cancer every year" or "shyt happens" you nikkaz kill me......I think I lost a couple of brain cells trying to comprehend that but I think the real question I have is how do atheists/agnostics explain the unexplained or unexplainable? that question has yet to be answered

 

[Big Blue]

the ignorance in these posts is sad your reasoning is "millions die of cancer every year" or "shyt happens" you nikkaz kill me......I think I lost a couple of brain cells trying to comprehend that but I think the real question I have is how do atheists/agnostics explain the unexplained or unexplainable? that question has yet to be answered

Killing brain cells, that's better than your reasoning. I got that phone call for that organ, it must have been God that selected my name in the list!! Maybe it was Lucy

 

[Money Be Green]

So many lost souls in this thread

 

[The Don]

Killing brain cells, that's better than your reasoning. I got that phone call for that organ, it must have been God that selected my name in the list!! Maybe it was Lucy

You still haven't answered the question

your quick to laugh and joke at my reasoning but haven't offered any type of defense for yours

 

[Big Blue]

You still haven't answered the question

your quick to laugh and joke at my reasoning but haven't offered any type of defense for yours

You haven't even provided an incident to do a proper case study. Please list a story about a miraculous cancer cure and we'll do a case study on it. You just pulled some random instances out of your ass

 

[The Don]

You haven't even provided an incident to do a proper case study. Please list a story about a miraculous cancer cure and we'll do a case study on it. You just pulled some random instances out of your ass

Its breast cancer awareness month....go on their website you'll see plenty

 

[Big Blue]

Its breast cancer awareness month....go on their website you'll see plenty

Are you serious breh? The burden on proof is on you and you can't even provide ONE well documented instance of cancer curing with no medical explanation???

 

[The Don]

Are you serious breh? The burden on proof is on you and you can't even provide ONE well documented instance of cancer curing with no medical explanation???

Chuck Pagano, Kanye West, Robin Roberts, Goldie Hawn, 50 Cent....the list goes on breh

 

[Big Blue]

Chuck Pagano, Kanye West, Robin Roberts, Goldie Hawn, 50 Cent....the list goes on breh

Are you serious breh? They ALL had radiation treatment. Chuck Pagano's bald head almost became the Colts new logo. 50 Cent never had cancer and he got lucky when he survived that shooting. Ye' was lucky too. There's nothing miraculous about surviving a car accident. It's called beating the odds. Stop posting breh, please.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Killing brain cells, that's better than your reasoning. I got that phone call for that organ, it must have been God that selected my name in the list!! Maybe it was Lucy

Like the employer or doctor didn't take it upon himself to call.



But but but god put the spirit on him to call

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You just proved my point. The notion that we live in a video game is a notion of a higher power that is not derivative of religious ideology. You literally said that notions of the form function and purpose of a higher power all stem from religious ideology. That is patently wrong. There are bodies of philosophical work that explore such things outside of a religious framework.

They do. You're investing in an unsubstantiated claim. Founded in religion. Your specific claim is a religious one. Not all unsubstantiated claims are religious, but they are dogmatic.

No attempt to baffle here. I mean't what I said in earnest, and you've in no way shown that it wasn't true.
The bolded directly contradicts what you're implying here.

and yet you don't understand the value of empiricism.

You are essentially arguing that notional belief in a completely undefined higher power is inseparable from religion when this is demonstrably untrue.

Your specific claim is a religious one.

This isn't a logical or academic position you're taking here it is a semantic one. You've recognised that religion for many is a tainted concept and you see mileage in shaming people that believe in any kind of higher power by using it as an catch-all tag where it doesn't fit. Nobody is asking us to accept anything. You've clearly misunderstood the meaning of dogma if you believe that individuals musing about things beyond the current extent of human knowledge can be described in that way.

Your claim about there being a supernatural deity "out there" is a religious one.

If you want to play semantics and pretend that deism is any less religious, then we can go in depth as to why you're trying to bullshyt yourself.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Are you serious breh? They ALL had radiation treatment. Chuck Pagano's bald head almost became the Colts new logo. 50 Cent never had cancer and he got lucky when he survived that shooting. Ye' was lucky too. There's nothing miraculous about surviving a car accident. It's called beating the odds. Stop posting breh, please.

I'm saying. Would these dudes have rather died?

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Are you serious breh? They ALL had radiation treatment. Chuck Pagano's bald head almost became the Colts new logo. 50 Cent never had cancer and he got lucky when he survived that shooting. Ye' was lucky too. There's nothing miraculous about surviving a car accident. It's called beating the odds. Stop posting breh, please.

Go have unprotected sex breh.
When you get hiv and aids don't take medicine. Just pray and your disease will go away.
If it doesn't then you weren't committed strong enough with your love for god.

 

[The Don]

Are you serious breh? They ALL had radiation treatment. Chuck Pagano's bald head almost became the Colts new logo. 50 Cent never had cancer and he got lucky when he survived that shooting. Ye' was lucky too. There's nothing miraculous about surviving a car accident. It's called beating the odds. Stop posting breh, please.

Ok