*THREAD SPINOFF* What made you an atheist or agnostic?

[Couth]

When i heard about the crusades. Bunch of motherfukkers from dif religions that all preach peace, happiness, and acceptance? Yet their slaughtering each other over whose prophet was real? And you expect me to follow one of these religions? No thanks.

Religious books are just that books. Book written by some dude like me and you. Not by god. And maybe those books had a good general outline for how to live your life back in the day, but thanks to advancements in modern technology/the law i don't need a fukking book to tell me how to live. Its an outdated joke.

And i make fun of christians cuz they're the scuzziest hypocrites alive. Instead of just living like right. Doing your best to help people and do the right hting. Leaving a positive mark on the world. Christians choose to go around doing evil shyt and then they think saying "sorry" to jesus will bring them salvation. What kinda backwards ass religion? Do whatever you want, just make sure you apologize to jesus after? Makes sense.

 

[Greenstrings]

They do. You're investing in an unsubstantiated claim. Founded in religion. Your specific claim is a religious one. Not all unsubstantiated claims are religious, but they are dogmatic.

and yet you don't understand the value of empiricism.


Your specific claim is a religious one.



Your claim about there being a supernatural deity "out there" is a religious one.

If you want to play semantics and pretend that deism is any less religious, then we can go in depth as to why you're trying to bullshyt yourself.

Full disclosure, I'm an agnostic atheist. These aren't my claims. And again, nothing you're describing can be called dogma.

Is it really that inconceivable to you that a secular humanist might think your views on religion are wrongheaded?

I understand full well the value of empiricism but I also understand its limits in the face of the abstract and subjective, something that seems to elude you.

I made a variety of points there and you essentially made the same reply to each one of em. So either you don't get what I'm saying or you're intellectually lazy.

To respond directly to your point, deism isn't a religion for reasons similar to why we don't consider atheism a religion. It is only a singular perspective on a singular question. Is there a higher power? to qualify as a deist all one need do is answer yes. It necessitates no further action or belief whether individual, cultural or social. That is not what we consider a religion and I don't know why you need it to be the other way so bad.

 

[The Don]

No one has still answered my question

 

[triplehate]

Alibis ain't matching up, bullshyt catching up

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Full disclosure, I'm an agnostic atheist. These aren't my claims. And again, nothing you're describing can be called dogma.

Is it really that inconceivable to you that a secular humanist might think your views on religion are wrongheaded?

Honestly?

No.

humanity is at that point now.

I understand full well the value of empiricism but I also understand its limits in the face of the abstract and subjective, something that seems to elude you.

And the solution isn't to make shyt up in lieu of a limitation to understanding

I made a variety of points there and you essentially made the same reply to each one of em. So either you don't get what I'm saying or you're intellectually lazy.

Or the shyt you say isn't worth replying to in defense of superstition

To respond directly to your point, deism isn't a religion for reasons similar to why we don't consider atheism a religion.

It is.

Deism is what you get from people who aren't willing to put both feet over the ledge. They know "traditional" religion is a farce but they also don't apply those criticism unilaterally to themselves. Its almost narcissism in action to be a deist to assert that your special little god applies to only you and only you understand it.

It is only a singular perspective on a singular question. Is there a higher power? to qualify as a deist all one need do is answer yes. It necessitates no further action or belief whether individual, cultural or social. That is not what we consider a religion and I don't know why you need it to be the other way so bad.

And its equally as unsubstantiated and indefensible of a claim

 

[Nefrodamus]

This nikka @Napoleon always with the shyts

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Whats bad about that belief?

So creating simulations isnt something that can be done all of a sudden?

Wow!!!!

Its not bad or good.

Its unsubstantiated.

Just is the belief that Obama is actually a Kenyan foreign intelligence officer.

 

[Blackout]

Its not bad or good.

Its unsubstantiated.

Just is the belief that Obama is actually a Kenyan foreign intelligence officer.

unsubstantiated? We have created simulations and our tech is improving so it isnt baseless.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

unsubstantiated? We have created simulations and our tech is improving so it isnt baseless.

It is baseless.

Creating a simulation (with parameters) doesn't mean you live in one.

 

[Blackout]

It is baseless.

Creating a simulation (with parameters) doesn't mean you live in one.

It doesnt automatically mean that BUT it does raise the chance of that possibility being true.

Stop being so anti-possibility breh

 

[Big Blue]

Ok

What a response

 

[The Don]

What a response

Reminds you of yourself huh

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It doesnt automatically mean that BUT it does raise the chance of that possibility being true.

Stop being so anti-possibility breh

Anti-possibility? Really?

This is what makes you a fukking idiot. Point blank period.

Coming up with possibilities doesn't matter if we're talking about proven assertions.

 

[Blackout]

Anti-possibility? Really?

This is what makes you a fukking idiot. Point blank period.

Coming up with possibilities doesn't matter if we're talking about proven assertions.

Who says that our conversation was strictly about proven assertions?

Your an idiot because your so anti-belief that you cant wrap your head around possibilities.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Who says that our conversation was strictly about proven assertions?

Your an idiot because your so anti-belief that you cant wrap your head around possibilities.

Possibilities are useless.

Lets get to the facts.