*THREAD SPINOFF* What made you an atheist or agnostic?

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We are at that point. Unfortunately not everyone has paid attention to the updates.

I didn't say this.
You're missing my point the metaphor is always dumb no matter what context it's being used in. It betrays the same kind of narrow mindedness and lack of general awareness that makes people ask why there's still homophobia, racism and violence still exist in 2014. Humanity is not and never has been "at a point". Think about it logically, how does it make sense to say that humanity has moved past religion when 84% of the worlds population is religious? There is no memo or 'update', history has never functioned in this way. There are still of people out there that would have never encountered an atheist.

Its not excusable either.
Who said it had to be? Excusable to who exactly? By what moral standard have you decided that religious people need to be derided and insulted?

So make better arguments that don't rely on supplementary information
My arguments are cogent and relatively easy to follow, it ain't on me that you want everything to make sense on your own terms.

Sure we can. Thats what experiments are for.
No we can't, we've made huge strides with the brain but there are a ton of things we still don't know. Simple fMRI tests suggest that religious people actually do believe in earnest but that gives rise to more complex questions of the extents to which a brain can fool itself or succumb to constantly reified information and how cognitive dissonance actually functions that science can't yet answer. Relative to the complexity of the brain, our capacity to test it is actually quite limited.

Too bad. Adopting religious views is voluntary. And as such, they can be evaluated and verified
You're bringing out my inner contrarian with how wrong you often are when you make these blanket statements. That one however is a doozy. Most religious people are born into their faiths. You're essentially arguing that indoctrination from birth is the same thing a a voluntary decision to adopt a view, which... well I shouldn't have to explain why that makes no sense.

Empiricism disagrees with you.
Empiricism is an ideal. An indispensably useful one that forms the basis of the last 500 years of thought, but there is no ethical imperative to adhere to it in all aspects of ones life and it is utterly pointless to hold people up against that standard if they don't hold themselves to it.
 

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@DreadHead P get your punk ass in here and explain your actions :birdman:

:beli:I was already in here, is the name calling really necessary? That's not very christlike


No you're a sheep because you're going based only on what you see and not researching and really finding out what its about :ufdup:

I believe in everyone's right to believe what they want, but I've read through almost this entire thread and you clearly have not researched what the bible, christianity, or religion period is all about
 
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I've never really believed in any religion, and through my own analysis on life in general, I believe that there most likely isn't a god.

But I am respectful of other people's beliefs, as long as they're not hateful.
 

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I believe in everyone's right to believe what they want, but I've read through almost this entire thread and you clearly have not researched the bible, christianity, or religion period is all about
I most certainly have but you have to research each religion for yourself. You just can't blindly follow what people say. But you sound like you have something to say :sas1:
 

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I most certainly have but you have to research each religion for yourself. You just can't blindly follow what people say. But you sound like you have something to say :sas1:

Nah not really, as the son of a Baptist minister mom and an agnostic dad who only goes to church to shut the mom up I gave up arguing and debating the topic a long time ago. I'll let you believe what you believe if you let me know what I know and we can just stay out of each others way, life is much easier in that manner
 

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Nah not really, as the son of a Baptist minister mom and an agnostic dad who only goes to church to shut the mom up I gave up arguing and debating the topic a long time ago. I'll let you believe what you believe if you let me know what I know and we can just stay out of each others way, life is much easier in that manner
Are you agnostic?
 

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Are you agnostic?

If you absolutely have to put a title on me then yeah I guess that's the category I fall in, I don't do big/organized religion (even though I've studied most major religions), I'm just as open to the possibility that there is a higher power as I am to the possibility that there isn't a higher power. I despise christianity because it was force fed to me as fact when I was a child before I could think for myself and because of that I truly feel that religious indoctrination of children is borderline child abuse but that's a different topic
 

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If you absolutely have to put a title on me then yeah I guess that's the category I fall in, I don't do big/organized religion (even though I've studied most major religions), I'm just as open to the possibility that there is a higher power as I am to the possibility that there isn't a higher power. I despise christianity because it was force fed to me as fact when I was a child before I could think for myself and because of that I truly feel that religious indoctrination of children is borderline child abuse but that's a different topic
:ehh: fair enough
 

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No reason in particular (other than the fact that I find religion irrational), I don't know if I was ever really legit religious.

My parents took me to church occasionally (maybe once a month) and I went to Sunday school as a little kid, but I'm a very science/logic minded person by nature so I was always kinda like :duck: in the back of my mind.


Once I hit 18 and left for college I was like :blessed: I can sleep in on Sundays now.
 

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As a former athiest/Buddhist/hinduist/spiritualist, u nonbelievers r surely going to regret believing that crap when u die
 
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