TIDAL is pretty fukkin dope

[2manyFCKNrappers]

This shyt weird as hell, brehs, maybe I'm missing something. They want us to pay money every month to listen to music that is available for free and I don't even get to own this music?

You don't own the music anyway. Just because you buy the CD doesn't mean you own the rights. You just have a copy for yourself to play anytime you want. This is no different.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Grub hub my dude are you on a budget if so this application is not for you. Be a music fan and take it for granted brehs and wonder why the industry is ass

What?

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Their job is to make music so they're calling a pow wow about what's affecting their industry. They aren't politicians or world leaders.

 

[Leasy]

What?

You need a bytch because if you spending 40 dollars a week on grub hub you a loser. I read your comment wrong j thought you meant once or twice a week.

Compare music to food Brehs. Music can stop you eating brehs

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

I read about people raving about the sound quality. Itunes and those 128 kbs days got people's ears used to garbage. I'm in the process of revamping all the shyt I got years ago in at least 320 kbs because I listen to shyt and I've become a audio elitist. Anything below 320 to me sounds like an unoptimized No Limit CD. For people that care about sound quality, this is good shyt.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

You need a bytch because if you spending 40 dollars a week on grub hub you a loser. I read your comment wrong j thought you meant once or twice a week.

Compare music to food Brehs. Music can stop you eating brehs

I don't think using Grubhub has anything to do with having a girl that cooks, but that's another thread. For the record, I have two girls that cook for me regularly. There's just 3 spots that I really like ordering from every now and then.

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Netflix, red box, and block busters before hand were/are successful as rental services...just saying.

Cable TV is rent...you don't own the shows.

Good point, breh.

But is there a free television option with the same kind of programming? Therein lies the difference.

You don't own the music anyway. Just because you buy the CD doesn't mean you own the rights. You just have a copy for yourself to play anytime you want. This is no different.

Month 1...

Option 1: Buy TPAB on CD for $15.

Option 2: Pay $20 for Tidal subscription and have access to TPAB and other music for that month.

Month 2...

Option 1: Continue listening to TPAB. Pay nothing additional.

Option 2: Pay another $20 for Tidal subscription (we're up to $40 after two months) and have access to TPAB and other music.

Rinse wash repeat for a full year...

Option 1: I still have TPAB on CD. I only spent $15 for TPAB and I will continue to be able to listen to it whenever I want.

Option 2: I suddenly stop my Tidal subscription. I spent $240 for TPAB. And I can no longer listen to TPAB whenever I want.*



*But I have memories of listening to TPAB and other good music.

 

[OG Talk]

After taking the time to consider, not just the pros and cons of Tidal, but the entire streaming industry, I've come to a pretty clear conclusion. Free music on the internet has had a pretty good run, but on the consumers end it's time to start paying artists money for their music. $10-20 a month isn't really anything when you think about how important music is to our daily lives and what it does for us as people. It's an essential. We've gotten away with murder in terms of being able to listen to what we want whenever we want without paying anything unless we wanted to. It doesn't matter if these people are already super rich. It's still their job and their livelihood to make music. You wouldn't want someone to pay you when they felt like it for the work you did.

I guess people think making music doesn't count as "work" and it's just fun to be able to sit in the studio and make songs all day, but that's only one part of it. There's still an entire business behind getting the songs created and put out to the people. That part isn't fun at all and is still just as tedious and tiring as anyone's job.

Sometimes I buy albums, but 70-80% of the time, I'll download or stream it for free. The convenience for the consumer to pay only when they feel like it just isn't fair. All artists aren't Jay-Z, Beyonce, Madonna, Nicki Minaj or Chris Martin. You have hundreds of up and coming artists that need to be paid for their work accordingly, and if the internet is going to be the dominant platform and medium to access the content, there needs to be regulation in place for artists to be compensated fairly for their work.

Stop being cheap and stop thinking music doesn't have real value that shouldn't be paid for. If you want free music, learn to play a fukking instrument or start a band. Sure, there will be free projects and singles that artists can drop every now and then to give back to their fans, but that shouldn't be the case all the time. It shouldn't be the norm to not pay. That's just being a leech.

STFU with all this self righteous nonsense.. I pay for music because I chose to, but its just that. A CHOICE.. I'm not gonna judge anyone that's doing something we have ALL done..

You sound like the junky that's got high for 15 years, went to church and got saved and wants to have all the weed heads locked up... Just because you "found Jesus" don't have sh1t to do with anyone else n1gga

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

STFU with all this self righteous nonsense.. I pay for music because I chose to, but its just that. A CHOICE.. I'm not gonna judge anyone that's doing something we have ALL done..

You sound like the junky that's got high for 15 years, went to church and got saved and wants to have all the weed heads locked up... Just because you "found Jesus" don't have sh1t to do with anyone else n1gga

No shyt.

What I'm saying isn't self rightous, it's the truth. Point anywhere in my argument and tell me where what I wrote doesn't make sense. I think you have a problem with my argument because you just don't want to and CHOOSE not to pay, not because it's the right thing to do. You can sit here all day long and use that dumbass analogy about the sactified vs. the sinner, but at the end of the day, what I said about artists being compensated for their efforts is correct.

I reflected on my own actions and saw years and years of pirating and downloading without a second thought of paying. I conditioned myself to believe there was no problem with it because it's been convenient for me....that doesn't make it right. If you choose to do what you want and listen to music without paying, you'll be in the majority. Like I said, just because it's been the way for so long, don't think you aren't conditioning yourself to be a leech, even if it's on a small scale of "only downloading songs for free." It's a way of thinking that the internet age hasn't corrected that makes taking something small and intangible seem harmless. That doesn't mean you're not taking a product without paying.

 

[CHILLL]

grooveshark.com >

 

[OG Talk]

No shyt.

I think you have a problem with my argument because you just don't want to and CHOOSE not to pay, not because it's the right thng to do.

Stopped reading right here... I DO pay for music you dumb n1gga...I've been paying for years..And I didn't need Jay, Madonna and Nicki Minaj to go on stage to make me have a soul searching moment about the real value of music..I've been paying for premium streaming services years before Tidal was even a discussion..You've never seen me in any of these Coli threads begging for links, because I pay for what I want.. But that's MY choice and I do it for my own personal benefit...

Lemme ask you this.. Since you admit to obtaining 70-80% of your music over the years for free and you admit that its immoral, unethical and has aided in the demise of music....Are you going to do the right thing and retroactively send in payments for all the art that you've stolen?

Since your suggesting government regulations and are all about "doing whats right" now...

Lead by example

 

[Mike Otherz]

100,000 new subscribers since monday, the day coli intellectuals and financial experts said it was doomed.

that coli logic brehs

 

[Leasy]

100,000 new subscribers since monday, the day coli intellectuals and financial experts said it was doomed.

that coli logic brehs

They just hating sitting their asses home on computers spending hours out their day downloading music instead of getting vaginal fluid and enjoying the weather.

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

Stopped reading right here... I DO pay for music you dumb n1gga...I've been paying for years..And I didn't need Jay, Madonna and Nicki Minaj to go on stage to make me have a soul searching moment about the real value of music..I've been paying for premium streaming services years before Tidal was even a discussion..You've never seen me in any of these Coli threads begging for links, because I pay for what I want.. But that's MY choice and I do it for my own personal benefit...

Lemme ask you this.. Since you admit to obtaining 70-80% of your music over the years for free and you admit that its immoral, unethical and has aided in the demise of music....Are you going to do the right thing and retroactively send in payments for all the art that you've stolen?

Since your suggesting government regulations and are all about "doing whats right" now...

Lead by example

Why are you asking me dumbass rhetorical questions instead of just countering my original argument directly. I didn't ask you if you paid for your music....I didn't give a fukk what you did and I still don't. These are all things you choose to share that I never asked to know or gave a fukk about. You're taking my entire point out of context to have an unrealistic debate instead of just admitting what I said is right. You're making it a personal attack instead of just agreeing with the facts. Artists coming together to create a platform that will help them to be compensated fairly for their efforts is a step forward. That in a nutshell was my point. The reflection about my decision to support that type of platform is a personal one. You are acting like a bytch because I said it has been conditioning an acceptable form of petty theft over the years and called me self righteous for pointing it out.

 

[OG Talk]

100,000 new subscribers since monday, the day coli intellectuals and financial experts said it was doomed.

that coli logic brehs

They aren't officially subscribers until they make their first payment 30 days from now...That's when the real numbers can be judged against other premium services...