Tidal Keeps Sinking: Beyoncé And Rihanna Can’t Save ‘Biggest Disaster In Music History’ Read mor
Francis White
i been away to long, my feeling died.
This is a smear campaign against Jay. People want to see a black man fail so bad it's disgusting. Worse is that you see how easy it is for the media to manipulate the weak minded blacks into falling in line. The service has not even had a year to grow and correct whatever mistakes it has made. If you go back Apple had a grace period. Spotif with Shaun Parker did also and they were happy when napster failed but then he came right back and the world loves him all of a sudden. To the people preaching that group economic bullshyt just stop. The desire to hate each and the desire to really hate someone who goes against the system and your idea of what the system is supposed to be is retarted.
Do you know how ridiculous you sound for ridiculing a dude for actually making his service worth owning? I mean Jay literally told you about the concert shyt like two days after Tidal launched. This reminds of that what Stereo Williams said, "Because Jay Z is a business man and a rapper, there will always be a group of people that skeptical of his every move," This is the first time in history nikkas said, "fukk him, look at him trying to make his service worth owning." The rest of your post just sounds stupid, "come up with a phone that does what an iphone does and then load it with exclusive shyt." So you would be good with him doing exactly what he was doing if he also created another i phone? nikka what? Everyone who dapped your post after that should ask someone to neg them
What did I say that wasnt facts? He comparing an overpriced streaming service to Apple. It has nothing to do with Jay or being a businessman. It has to do with dude pulling out all the stops for a mediocre product Nobody needs. I use my iphone for business not just to fukking stream music. He made the comparison not me. Everything I said was facts. Jay also said he had to dumb down his lyrics cuz yall too stupid to understand. HE SAID THAT. Lol you probably took it as a compliment. fukk outta here!!!!!
TheGodling
Los Ingobernables de Sala de Cine
There's lots of terrible clickbait articles being written about Tidal but the fact remains that it was a marketing disaster hitting all the wrong notes.
"We offer the same paid streaming service as the one you're most likely already using, possibly for free, unless you want to pay more and get higher quality sound and exclusives that'll be all over the internet in less than a day anyway."
They then tried to play the "more money goes to the artists" to separate themselves but failed to realize that nobody cares where the money goes. Nobody cares if 20% or 60% of the money they spent on an album goes to the artist, they only care about how much money they have to spend on it, and how that relates to how much money they're willing to spend on it. That's where Tidal fukked up because they were too oblivious to realize that the only people who care about how much money the artists get are the artists themselves.
"We offer the same paid streaming service as the one you're most likely already using, possibly for free, unless you want to pay more and get higher quality sound and exclusives that'll be all over the internet in less than a day anyway."
They then tried to play the "more money goes to the artists" to separate themselves but failed to realize that nobody cares where the money goes. Nobody cares if 20% or 60% of the money they spent on an album goes to the artist, they only care about how much money they have to spend on it, and how that relates to how much money they're willing to spend on it. That's where Tidal fukked up because they were too oblivious to realize that the only people who care about how much money the artists get are the artists themselves.
NewWaveEra
Banned
This.People trying to blame Tidal's struggles less on Hov's flawed business model and more into an issue of race
Jay reached Dame Dash motor oil status with Tidal.
I don't doubt there's a smear campaign afoot. But Tidal - the service - was marketed poor
Switching music streaming services once you've paid for a decent period of time is difficult. I follow playlists created by other users and i've created Spotify specific playlists.
Most of Spotify's paid subscribers "graduate" from the free version though.
Switching music streaming services once you've paid for a decent period of time is difficult. I follow playlists created by other users and i've created Spotify specific playlists.
Techniec
Drugs and Kalashnikovs
Rell84shots
Veteran
Nas has to take whatever hole in the wall booking he can get to pay the woman who pimped him for everythingHa! Maybe next time he'll think twice before he disses Nas
Still burns slow.
Ellen Degeneres
All Star
The situation is: Jay is trying to pocket dollars from Vevo, Spotify, Apple Music and the consumer all at once. Tidal's exclusives (like the Beyonce/Nicki Minaj/Rihanna videos which would have gone to Vevo otherwise) are directly hurting someone's pockets out there. The owners of these pockets are probably way more powerful and wealthy than Jay Z. So this article may or may not be part of a smear campaign, but there is no reason to act surprised if there is one. That's the cut throat nature of any situation where there's (big) money involved. Dre and Diddy have been smarter to avoid these types of conflicts from the jump.
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I mean the CEO was fired for a reason lol.
why are you dudes making this seem like a black/white thing.
BUT before you answer that question tell me how many of you guys are subscribed to Tidal......I'll wait
See, this isn't about black or white. its a bout a rich dude trying to get richer by using his status as a popular rapper to make his fans spend MORE money on a service that offers no more than their competitors
Now we all have seen ppl trying to do the same,, some succeed and some fail. but this time its so transparent what he is doing.
Now it would have all been for nothing if he would have just dropped the price and not try to take advantage of the "fans"
if this came in cheaper than spotify by even a dollar it would have had way more success especially with the artist support they had.
but at the end of the day its about a pay service.
BUT before you answer that question tell me how many of you guys are subscribed to Tidal......I'll wait
See, this isn't about black or white. its a bout a rich dude trying to get richer by using his status as a popular rapper to make his fans spend MORE money on a service that offers no more than their competitors
Now we all have seen ppl trying to do the same,, some succeed and some fail. but this time its so transparent what he is doing.
Now it would have all been for nothing if he would have just dropped the price and not try to take advantage of the "fans"
if this came in cheaper than spotify by even a dollar it would have had way more success especially with the artist support they had.
but at the end of the day its about a pay service.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
edit: I just read your post and my reply below doesn't really respond to what you just said........But I typed it up , so I'mma leave it
The only thing I remember from Tidal advertising is this:
From the commercial - ( 20s mark ) "Group of people being able to get together and make a stand", WTF? why would that interest me in any way, am i suppose to feel sorry for them? All of you are already millionaires, what exactly are you standing up against? That's what alot of people felt( Right or Wrong ), it's like Bill Gates complaining about taxes, even if he's paying 2 billion a year in taxes none of us are going to feel sorry for him. Now here's the thing, You can't say "Data-Hawk you're wrong" weather they meant that or not, me and alot of other consumers took it that way. So we are in the right. LOL.
As a consumer it's not my job to go looking for what they "REALLY" meant, that's their problem.It's up to them to come back with a different message and make us believe different.
I would like to also bring up the EGO of these musicians, at the 50 second mark, Beyonce says "If our fans can see that its from us, it's done!" , again they are banking on their star power only as a reason for us to support them. A song is a song, what difference does it make to the average consumer where it came from? It only needs to be easily accessible.
at the 9 second mark Jay-z says " Change the course of history" , How will this change things for "me" Hov? What will you do that is so different? As a consumer I shouldn't have to research what you meant.
40 second mark Jay-z says - " I think it's one of the things that sets us aside from someone that's a tech company" really? last I check technology is the main force behind this and the only thing I've seen so far that could be different is the high quality version which is driven by somebody who came up with an effective algorithm, not you.
1:20 second Madonna says - "Its about putting art back to the forefront, it's about bringing humanity back to being an artist".....wtf does that even mean to somebody whose just trying to listen to a song while they do another activity? This sounds like they want us to donate to a save the dolphins charity.. Look at the environment of the commercial, looks like a country club or some event where only rich people with elite attitudes can attend, am i lying?
Now here's the really funny thing, I'm actually looking "out" for his product more than most of these posters. Yes we should support black businesses, but at the same time you should also be critical of them and say what's working( I think they Concert helped ) and what's not, So they can come back with a better product and better message. Me being a hater or not wanting to support a black business would be me saying "This sucks" and never looking at it again. It's owned by a black man, but I'm sure he wants a diverse customer base, He doesn't want just "black" customers who will blindly support him just because they share the same skin color. So somebody bringing up what's wrong with the product is not a c00n or a sell-out. It's constructive criticism ( at least on my part ). If somebody made this same post and put Mark Zuckerberg in the article, I would go.
Let me drop this off here to show how much hate Billy use to get back in the day:
the craziest thing about that video is that it's almost as vague as those idiots who try to peddle MLM products such as wakeupnow and 5linx.
Jack Trippa 3z company ho
Superstar
It's not a race thing. Look at how much positive press Dre got with Beats. The media absolutely loves him. And now his deal with Apple has everybody anticipating it.
Jay thought he could throw up a bunch of celebs on some way over hyped and awkward roll out, and then tried the sympathy play saying artists are getting screwed and we're supposed to come running and just throw money at them cuz they're celebs, who gives a fukk about the actual product.
Really Jay?
Cuz you made your entire career out of ballin out of control, and steady told your audience that you're no where as good as him cuz he has more money. The content of his music has always been on some superficial money materialism shyt.
Jay has been dissed multiple times in his career, dude def has bytch tendencies. So we he catches a major public L like this, folks are gonna revel in that.
Jay thought he could throw up a bunch of celebs on some way over hyped and awkward roll out, and then tried the sympathy play saying artists are getting screwed and we're supposed to come running and just throw money at them cuz they're celebs, who gives a fukk about the actual product.
Really Jay?
Cuz you made your entire career out of ballin out of control, and steady told your audience that you're no where as good as him cuz he has more money. The content of his music has always been on some superficial money materialism shyt.
Jay has been dissed multiple times in his career, dude def has bytch tendencies. So we he catches a major public L like this, folks are gonna revel in that.