Tim Duncan > Kobe Bryant according to ESPN writer

[Malcolmxxx_23]

now nikkas just making shyt up. Lakers/Kobe have been to 7 of the last 13 NBA finals. Spurs have been to 4. And Kobe has prevented Spurs/Tim from getting there 4 times.

look at the winning percentage

 

[Goatpoacher]

now nikkas just making shyt up. Lakers/Kobe have been to 7 of the last 13 NBA finals. Spurs have been to 4. And Kobe has prevented Spurs/Tim from getting there 4 times.

Do you still not know how to count?

Just a reminder, the poster now known as "Dwight Howard" looks like this:

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Do you still not know how to count?

Just a reminder, the poster now known as "Dwight Howard" looks like this:

not one ounce of testosterone in that nikka

 

[Malta]

Kobe was dealing with injuries for the last 5 years, thats not an excuse. Remember the bone-on-bone knee, the arthritic finger on the shooting hand, etc. Averaging 13 and 9 is sub-par however you want to spin it. And if Kobe is putting up awful stats next season, he's probably done.

What does any of this have to do with Bron saying Duncan > Kobe? You dudes always quoted Bron before, now you don't want to take his word as gospel anymore? Nah, next season when Kobe is shooting 4-26 and failing to get around Andrea Bargnani you won't even think of calling it a sub-par year.

Like Kobe hasn't been dealing with injuries since 08?

From his fingers to his knees.

None of Duncan's injuries were career ending like the one Kobe just suffered.

We have tangible proof that Duncan's injuries were truly holding him back, which is the fact he had to drop nearly 30lbs to relieve pressure from his knee and once he did he went right back to being the best big man in the league.

Oh, already have the qualifier ready, so the 6-9 month injury is now a career ender.

 

[Dwight Howard]

these are articles circa 2010-2011

Appreciate Tim Duncan while you can; Spurs forward may soon be gone - ESPN

I used to believe coach Gregg Popovich was just monitoring Tim Duncan's minutes to keep him fresh for the playoffs. For a while I believed Duncan did less so that Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker could shine more. Everyone could see Shaquille O'Neal falling to pieces, but Duncan's decline was always masked by his steady presence and the wins. I used to be blind, but thanks to the Memphis Grizzlies, now I see.

Duncan never had great lift, but now his feet have taken root in the ground; rebounds out of his area are now rebounds out of his reach.

San Antonio Spurs: Tim Duncan's Decline | Bleacher Report

Duncan decline might signal a change for the Spurs - NBA - Sporting News
Duncan's decline exposed in critical minutes

but he's the most consistent of this generation, smh

 

[Malta]

You all keep harping on the "he's still one of the best big man" mantra as a way of attesting to his current great output when you openly admit this is the worst era for big men in history

That would be a good argument, except for the fact he was the best big man in the league when the league was LOADED with great players at his position. The quality of big men has no bearing on his production, he would do what he does regardless of the era. The only thing that slowed him down was his knee.

 

[Malta]

Do you still not know how to count?

Just a reminder, the poster now known as "Dwight Howard" looks like this:

So that's where Bassington went

 

[Dwight Howard]

What does any of this have to do with Bron saying Duncan > Kobe? You dudes always quoted Bron before, now you don't want to take his word as gospel anymore? Nah, next season when Kobe is shooting 4-26 and failing to get around Andrea Bargnani you won't even think of calling it a sub-par year.





We have tangible proof that Duncan's injuries were truly holding him back, which is the fact he had to drop nearly 30lbs to relieve pressure from his knee and once he did he went right back to being the best big man in the league.

Oh, already have the qualifier ready, so the 6-9 month injury is now a career ender.

Ive never quoted LeBrob, never will. And if Kobe getting multiple procedures done on his knees and finger isnt tangible proof of an injury then I dont know what to tell you. Dude was in serious decline, and is now back from the dead. Its ok to admit it.

 

[Liquid]

I agree with you more often than not, but this cop out you all keep using because you like Duncan is ridiculous. You all keep harping on the "he's still one of the best big man" mantra as a way of attesting to his current great output when you openly admit this is the worst era for big men in history. It's been some time since Tim Duncan was considered a top 5 player, as of this season (maybe even last depending on who you are), his reign of being that type of player has been surpassed by Kobe's reign in that same realm (00-01 to the present). Now if you argue that Duncan's peak is higher than Kobe or that he accomplished more, I wouldn't really argue it (even if I disagree) because that's more than fair. But the longevity and durability argument has to favor Kobe in any legitimate debate. Kobe shot statistically his worst percentage in like 14 years last season, had one knee, and was still heavily scrutinized, but still universally regarded as better than Duncan. If Kobe had a bad season, then I don't know what the hell you call Duncan's.

Your argument would hold weight if he entered the league in 2005 or so.

Being the best big man in the league at 37 is a huge accomplishment regardless of ERA as well.

 

[GreatestLaker]

We have tangible proof that Duncan's injuries were truly holding him back, which is the fact he had to drop nearly 30lbs to relieve pressure from his knee and once he did he went right back to being the best big man in the league.

Oh, already have the qualifier ready, so the 6-9 month injury is now a career ender.

No, Dwight Howard injuring his back and Bynum being out for the year had more to do with that than anything Duncan did.

We don't know how Kobe will react. It could be career ending. We don't know.

That would be a good argument, except for the fact he was the best big man in the league when the league was LOADED with great players at his position. The quality of big men has no bearing on his production, he would do what he does regardless of the era. The only thing that slowed him down was his knee.

What year was he clearly the best big man?

 

[GreatestLaker]

not one ounce of testosterone in that nikka

Oh that's William?

I was wondering where he disappeared to.

 

[Malta]

No, Dwight Howard injuring his back and Bynum being out for the year had more to do with that than anything Duncan did.





We don't know how Kobe will react. It could be career ending. We don't know.

Dwight Howard? back injury or not he would have been exposed for what he is. When exactly is the last time Bynum has played a full 82? And Chauncey came back from a torn achilles, it's not 1978 anymore you can comeback from that injury.

What year was he clearly the best big man?

1976 to 2013.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Your argument would hold weight if he entered the league in 2005 or so.

Being the best big man in the league at 37 is a huge accomplishment regardless of ERA as well.

Kobe being the best SG at 35 >>> Duncan being the best big man in this weak ass era of big men

at 17 and 9 = being the best big man in the league

 

[Malta]

Ive never quoted LeBrob, never will. And if Kobe getting multiple procedures done on his knees and finger isnt tangible proof of an injury then I dont know what to tell you. Dude was in serious decline, and is now back from the dead. Its ok to admit it.

@ "Serious decline" He had one year of 13/9 and it came in under 30 minutes.

Yet again, what does this have to do with Bron saying Duncan has been the best player of the last 15 years?

 

[Goatpoacher]

Dwight Howard? back injury or not he would have been exposed for what he is. When exactly is the last time Bynum has played a full 82? And Chauncey came back from a torn achilles, it's not 1978 anymore you can comeback from that injury.



1976 to 2013.