Time for real talk on affirmative action. Indians and Asians about to get that wake up call when the SCOTUS eliminates it.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The ripple effect of overturning AA could prove consequential in banking, hiring practices, and many other areas. These other groups are basically saying they don’t believe black people are intelligible enough to be in these spaces.

All AA does is give you an opportunity to interviewed.. it’s not like you’re getting into Harvard with 2.0gpa simply because you’re black

The white man’s new tactic is to use other minorities and black women to attack us

Yep.

I dont wanna hear shyt about "why don't successful blacks give more chances" will effectively disappear. The SLIM and marginal success we have will evaporate in less than 20 years.

Mind, you, its only been like 30-35 years of open black success. Even during the 70s it was really rocky. There was a lot of "first black person to do XYZ" during that era...people take this for granted

 

[Mowgli]

Foreigners don't understand cacs. They still think they can good boy their way to the top spot. Now they're about to turn into the greatest c00ns the world's ever seen.

we fought to get set asides which went to whites and foreigners and now they don't want it anymore because they think they're allied with the establishment.

they must really plan on stepping up their bribery game

 

[Matt504]

Are you sure, can anyone definitely prove that

Asian-Americans scored higher than applicants of any other racial or ethnic group on admissions measures like test scores, grades and extracurricular activities, according to the analysis commissioned by a group that opposes all race-based admissions criteria. But the students’ personal ratings significantly dragged down their chances of being admitted, the analysis found.

Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits, Suit Says (Published 2018)

Personal ratings brought down Asian-American applicants’ chances of being admitted, according to an analysis filed by a group suing the school for bias.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Gritsngravy]

Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits, Suit Says (Published 2018)

Personal ratings brought down Asian-American applicants’ chances of being admitted, according to an analysis filed by a group suing the school for bias.

www.nytimes.com

I need a neutral source to provide these studies, what is personal ratings mean, and are Asians not at these colleges

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Harvard Rated Asian-American Applicants Lower on Personality Traits, Suit Says (Published 2018)

Personal ratings brought down Asian-American applicants’ chances of being admitted, according to an analysis filed by a group suing the school for bias.

www.nytimes.com

They're already using this shyt to keep asians out of corporate jobs based on "Vibe" and they're doing it to black people in tech:

Facebook’s ‘culture fit’ is the focus of a discrimination complaint, report says

A Black woman who was rejected from Facebook last year says she was rushed through the interview process and told the company was looking for a culture fit.

www.theverge.com

Wait till they literally don't have to educate them.

You think hypocrisy and rationality matters to WS.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Asians stand to gain the most from merit based admissions, they know this and that's why they make the most noise about affirmative action in these elite schools.

Asians aren't the ones making the most noise, it's white people led by Edward Blum, using a small amount Chinese American students. He tried with white women and failed, then moved on to them. The majority of Asians support AA.

Why Edward Blum is No Friend to Asian Americans by Stephanie Drenka - VISIBLE Magazine

Who is the mystery man leading the charge behind Students for Fair Admissions' lawsuit against Harvard University?

visiblemagazine.com

Blum, a former stockbroker, is still pretty bitter about losing the campaign for a House seat in Houston to a Black Democrat in 1992. The loss set him on a course of neoconservative legal activism, beginning with filing (and winning) a lawsuit against the state of Texas claiming racial gerrymandering.

He sponsored the Supreme Court case Shelby County v. Holder which overturned a key provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that prevented states from enacting voting procedures that might disproportionately burden racial minorities.

He is a man on a mission: to dismantle years of Civil Rights era progress by undoing laws meant to combat racial inequality. And he really, really hates Affirmative Action.

Blum is entitled (as most conservative straight White cisgender men feel they are) to fight against race-conscious decision-making in college admissions. What we shouldn’t – can’t – abide is Blum using Asian Americans to do his dirty work.

In 2013, he tried to sue the University of Texas on behalf of a white woman, Abigail Fisher, but the Supreme Court found in the University’s favor. Blum is not one to give up easily. He went back to the drawing board and tried a new strategy…

“I needed Asian plaintiffs,” Blum said, according to Harvard’s court filing, in regards to starting the website HarvardNotFair.org. In looking at the site, I can only imagine that the search terms he used to find a stock photo for the homepage were something like, “sad Asian student.”

He is essentially a ventriloquist using Chinese Americans as his dummies in an elaborate performance with the intent to upend years of progress in educational equity. The real threat to Asian Americans is not Affirmative Action- it is Blum’s cheap brand of White Privilege wrapped in the fallacy of colorblindness.

Alas, he must have been so busy Googling stock photos of “sad Asians” that he didn’t talk to many of us in real life. If he had, perhaps he would have learned that the majority actually support Affirmative Action to increase educational representation of Black, Latinx, and other minorities in colleges.

But, let’s be real. Blum is not fighting for racial equity. His end goal is to uphold the status quo and protect conservative power. And he will not be easily deterred.

Elimination of Affirmative Action would primarily benefit White men who already have lifetimes of privilege and advantages over every other intersectional category of people.

Race-Blind Admissions Are Affirmative Action for Whites

In 1994, University of Michigan rejected Jennifer Gratz, setting in motion the overturning of state's affirmative-action policy. Now, she's challenging a black student who's protesting her own rejection.

prospect.org

 

[levitate]

Can’t they use a completely anonymized application system?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Can’t they use a completely anonymized application system?

yeah then the Ivy leagues and schools who want to be the Ivy's don't look like they want

 

[saturn7]

Higher education > Reparations.

Unless you're happy just having the education of a service worker

With Reparations we will be able to bolster our own institutions. We won't have to go begging for admission in other people's universities.
We won't have to be crying about school systems banning "CRT" or not having enough Black History in their cirriculum because we will be educating our own, like Malcolm said!!

AA has already been cut to shreds. We need something bigger and better.

 

[humminbird]

yeah pretty much
they're approaching this as a number situation and think if they get rid of the cap they'll let more of them in when in reality less will get in because they can let more white kids in
they're slowly trying to get rid of the degree requirement with some jobs because more black people are getting degrees in many companies. while the white people are starting to ditch it even more.
colleges will start trying to use the "well rounded student" angle again
I'll give some advice to people out there with kids who want them to get into an Ivy League my family has many Ivy League alumni. getting the first one in is the hardest
have them take a music major or some sport
but make their major something where not a lot of black kids major in
the chances will increase and they can switch that major once they’re in the school for good

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

With Reparations we will be able to bolster our own institutions. We won't have to go begging for admission in other people's universities.
We won't have to be crying about school systems banning "CRT" or not having enough Black History in their cirriculum because we will be educating our own, like Malcolm said!!

AA has already been cut to shreds. We need something bigger and better.

we literally went through this already

look, money that can't be generated will not return.

Lets be reasonable about this. You can't change the world when you're in debt. You change the world when you change it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

yeah pretty much
they're approaching this as a number situation and think if they get rid of the cap they'll let more of them in when in reality less will get in because they can let more white kids in
they're slowly trying to get rid of the degree requirement with some jobs because more black people are getting degrees in many companies. while the white people are starting to ditch it even more.
colleges will start trying to use the "well rounded student" angle again
I'll give some advice to people out there with kids who want them to get into an Ivy League my family has many Ivy League alumni. getting the first one in is the hardest
have them take a music major or some sport
but make their major something where not a lot of black kids major in
the chances will increase and they can switch that major once they’re in the school for good

Yep. White men aren't even in college at rates that they used to be.

People aren't peeping this shyt.

 

[saturn7]

we literally went through this already

look, money that can't be generated will not return.

Lets be reasonable about this. You can't change the world when you're in debt. You change the world when you change it.

Yes we have been through this.

AA been hijacked and is not the solution. Clinging to outdated, insufficient policies is not the solution.

Why keep doing the same thing? AA didn't close the Racial Wealth Gap.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yes we have been through this.

AA been hijacked and is not the solution. Clinging to outdated, insufficient policies is not the solution.

Why keep doing the same thing? AA didn't close the Racial Wealth Gap.

reparations has nothing to do with this convo and more average black people have thrived off of AA than without it.

This is irrelevant.

 

[TripleAgent]