Time isn't real

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

do you see the point yet? is that piece of ice experiencing time?

ask the piece of ice, i cant speak for that man

 

[Drip Bayless]

I've always looked at time as an infinite collection of "now", as in present moments. Basically every moment in your life is happening "now", and how you perceive that event is relative to where you are on the linear course of "now".

That probably doesn't make any sense, so I'm going to sleep now.

This is Julian Barbour's theory. I used to agree with him

 

[Drip Bayless]

Time is very real. The real question is why is time operates so differently from the spatial dimensions.
Time as we perceive it is is a social construct, but the same goes for mathematics, the speed of light, etc. These things are inherent in the universe, but our expression of them is what is a human construct.

 

[YvrzTrvly]

I realize. What i was attempting to get at was that "now" only exists as a state of mind in constant flux. clocks/time are just a reference point. In the numerical system..whats the true difference between .9repeating and 1.0? That, to me is like differentiating between present time being (for example) 11:59 and 59 seconds and 999 milliseconds and it being 12:00 and .001 milliseconds with human faculties (can make the same point with infinite reduction of time measures but didnt feel like typing that formulaic). There is no difference other than rounding for convenience and is impossible to pinpoint without technology.

Correct I'm not sure how familiar you are with math but limits and certain series prove this to be true

 

[tmonster]

ask the piece of ice, i cant speak for that man

no need to troll
that was a serious question
it would behoove you to answer it

 

[tmonster]

What i was attempting to get at was that "now" only exists as a state of mind in constant flux.

This only applies in the metaphysical sense
in the physical realm a good question can be posed
what is the smallest now possible? and how do you define it's limits?
I have thought about this before
what do you think is the smallest "now" possible?

 

[tmonster]

ask the piece of ice, i cant speak for that man

funny enough in your trolling you reveal the wisdom of my first question in this discussion
when you said:

if photons dont experience time

I asked you

what does it mean that a photon (or not) "experiences" time?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

This only applies in the metaphysical sense
in the physical realm a good question can be posed
what is the smallest now possible? and how do you define it's limits?
I have thought about this before
what do you think is the smallest "now" possible?

Good question indeed. From a humanistic perspective?

funny enough in your trolling you reveal the wisdom of my first question in this discussion
when you said:

I asked you

There was a method to my madness on that comment

Perhaps "experience" isnt the right term for both a photon and a piece of ice out in neverland. I dont know. In terms of the photon, it was simply in reference to traveling at light speed. Time at light speed for a photon = what? N/A? As far as the piece of ice example...Being a trillion trillion etc light years away could mean anything..something that far away could possibly be outside of our set of dimensions. By my trolling, I was pointing towards the subjective nature of time in terms of "experiencing" as far as having a consciousness goes and the unknown circumstances of its environment...but other than that..Id say that every object not traveling at light speed can "experience" forces and have other factors going into whatever interactions they may have that can provide some sort of measure of "time"..but I wouldnt necessarily say that it would be "time" itself since I do not think that it is an inherent force of nature..just an aggregate of a bunch of other shyt.

 

[LogicFirst]

Practically speaking time is measured more accurately by change. The less change, the slower time is.

 

[joeychizzle]

The first and second sentences were enough to make me realize that this was a bullshyt post.
Relativity alone completely refutes that.

Your body's cells are constantly renewing themselves, but each time, their efficiency drops a little. No amount of ignoring the constant march of time in our dimension will slow down your inevitable rendezvous with death.
'slowing down aging by not knowing what time it is'
A worthy contender for the most absurd serious statement on the coli.

 

[IVS]

Or maybe it's the other way around. All that exist is space\time, and we are not real.

When you think about it, we are really just dust swirling in a cosmic wind, and we're part of some gargantuan ongoing chemical process. Maybe we're given with the illusion that we're separate, and we observe the cycles of space\time which is the ultimate reality.

 

[tmonster]

Or maybe it's the other way around. All that exist is space\time, and we are not real.

When you think about it, we are really just dust swirling in a cosmic wind, and we're part of some gargantuan ongoing chemical process. Maybe we're given with the illusion that we're separate, and we observe the cycles of space\time which is the ultimate reality.

How do you define real?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

The first and second sentences were enough to make me realize that this was a bullshyt post.
Relativity alone completely refutes that.

Your body's cells are constantly renewing themselves, but each time, their efficiency drops a little. No amount of ignoring the constant march of time in our dimension will slow down your inevitable rendezvous with death.
'slowing down aging by not knowing what time it is'
A worthy contender for the most absurd serious statement on the coli.

mentally which may trickle down into physical attributes

"old" people who maintain their lifestyle (usually those who exercise as well) and dont focus on how old they are getting seem to be in better shape for a longer time. when people start to give in to what society says they should or shouldnt do at their age..they start to fall off in all ways..starting with mental acuity

 

[joeychizzle]

mentally which may trickle down into physical attributes

"old" people who maintain their lifestyle (usually those who exercise as well) and dont focus on how old they are getting seem to be in better shape for a longer time. when people start to give in to what society says they should or shouldnt do at their age..they start to fall off in all ways..starting with mental acuity

Maintenance of an active lifestyle means better health, which directly correlates with better cell regeneration. There's nothing special about it. If you choose to remain active, so be it. If you think getting old means you gotta park your ass in front of a tv and do nothing then so be it too. Your choices just make you die faster.

You can't 'not know what time it is', however. You literally cannot be aware of your body ageing. All you can do is just keep moving and slow the process.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

Yeah people always act surprised when I tell them this has all been one long moment and there is no beginning or end. That it is just their turn to step out of the waves and manifest they're energy and move in this universe. Like when you die you just fall back to the waves.
Sorry for going off topic