said it in my other post if i get outstandin service ill leave a tip, i just dont feel obligated is my point... if i give you a tip its like gettin a reward card at my job, im rewardin a good job... dont come to my table actin like i owe you somethin you didnt earn...
I can't argue with that logic, I hear you. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer to tipping or not though. I for one tip generously at 20% as default. It can go up or down depending on my service. I agreed with "why am I tipping you for doing youre job" when I was younger. Then after becoming a club manager at one point and going out with women in the industry, I saw things differently. Ive stood on both sides so I get what youre saying.
The difference I think people arent seeing (the rest in no longer directed at you) is the service industry in general. Its SERVICE. YOU ARE SERVED. Comparing self serve dining to traditional restaurants is bogus as hell. You have a person waiting on your beck and call. You don't get to sit down at a table and have someone ask what you would like to eat/drink at Burger King. At a sitdown, someone makes it convenient for you to not have to stand in a long line just to order food. At BK, once you get your food the service is over. At a sitdown, you don't have to get up and get condiments to your liking or get refills etc. You can enjoy the ambiance and decor with your company. That is something you can't do with fast food. The cost of that convenience and decor is mostly covered by offsetting the staff pay to tipping. Everything that they arent charging you extra for is being "charged" to the waitstaff essentially and its up to their good service to recoup the difference directly from the customer. Any other business, this charge is hidden and gained in the books under the guise of something else. Its all relative. There are restaurants that don't allow tips and pay their staff comparable wages but everything is much more expensive than it would traditionally be. That $12 burger at a chain is now a $18 burger. That $21 premium cut burger at a nice restaurant is now a $32-35 burger. Plus they don't get to keep all their tips anyway, they usually have to give a cut to the bartenders as well.
So nah. Unless I went and ordered my own food at a register, walked back and forth to get my own drinks, walked back and forth to get my own condiments and napkins and I paid for everything BEFORE I ate. I will tip...unless my waiter fukks up
If you guys don't like to tip, cool. Im not a server and its not my food but keep the ice grill to yourself when I walk in, cut through your line of 20m a wait, get shown my table right in front of the screen, get comped half my meal, a free round of shots or a free drink when I pop in just to "check the score" of the game. Its level to th-...nevermind. Yall aint tip.
EDIT: I don't tip for takeout though. Even at nice places. :kobemad:
