Tired Of George "In No Rush" St-Pierre

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GSP fights are entertaining as fukk for a GSP fan :yeshrug:


Americans are just salty :ufdup:
 

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He was coming off a 4 fight win streak and a win over Ben Saunders, who at that time was undefeated. The fight against Hardy was announced as a title eliminator at the time.
no it was his fight with kampman (which never came to light) that was the title eliminator.Hardy thwarted that and as the ufc were trying to break into UK at the time the rest is history. Cant believe you actually tried to justify swick's title shot by citing his win over saunders, ben fukin saunders wow
 

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Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort Full Fight knockout on Vimeo

Where in this fight is Silva intentionally putting himself against the cage and letting Belfort tag him? Because that's what he did with Bonnar.

WTF is wrong with you? :huh: you're really looking desperate here and not making much sense..

silva doesn't mind fighting where other fighters feel comfortable. it was bonnar's gameplan to put him against the fence and rough him up (okami's too). he played their game for a little before disposing of them. it was belfort's gameplan to KO silva standing. the stand-up game is his realm, he's a counter-striker just like silva. so counter-striker vs counter-striker, who's gonna KO who first? that was really a 'who lands first' kinda fight. silva played with fire and won that game.

if he wanted a risk-averse GSP-esque strategy he would've tried to wall-stall, maybe take him down, not go for subs, pepper him with little punches and try and hold him there so the ref doesn't stand them up

and just in case you missed it, you were wrong about silva not dropping his hands against belfort
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Here's the summary of the Hendo-Silva fight from Bloody ELbow. Find the H-Bomb.

you're quoting summaries from bloodyelbow now? :what: do you WATCH fights?
 

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Silva's a counterstriker. He lets his hands down so that his opponents let their guard down. He trusts his reflexes to be better than his opponents, and he's usually right.

Silva was letting Bonnar hit him. Literally offering his chin to Stephan asking him to hit him. Part of that is because Silva's that damn good. But part of that is also because Bonnar is such a scrub. He's not doing that with Henderson, Weidman, or Belfort.

Silva does what it takes to get the finish. He could easily pitter patter and win on points as he showed in a couple of fights. Instead he takes chances to get his opponents to open up so that he could finish them. That's what GSP fails to do. With GSP it's like you can read his mind as if he's saying "is there a chance I can get hit here" before he does anything on offense. Even in his ground and pound. Compare for instance his ground and pound he's so careful and guarded with it.

Nobody is knocking his skill cause like I said before he may be the most unbeatable champion out there. He has NO holes in his game. But he reminds me of Roy Jones later in his career. Where he would just completely outclass opponents to the point they could barely land a punch. Yet Jones would never turn it up to go ahead and finish the opponents and have Manny Steward losing his mind cause he wanted to see the prodigious talent push himself to truly show his dominance.
 

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Silva does what it takes to get the finish. He could easily pitter patter and win on points as he showed in a couple of fights. Instead he takes chances to get his opponents to open up so that he could finish them. That's what GSP fails to do. With GSP it's like you can read his mind as if he's saying "is there a chance I can get hit here" before he does anything on offense. Even in his ground and pound. Compare for instance his ground and pound he's so careful and guarded with it.

Nobody is knocking his skill cause like I said before he may be the most unbeatable champion out there. He has NO holes in his game. But he reminds me of Roy Jones later in his career. Where he would just completely outclass opponents to the point they could barely land a punch. Yet Jones would never turn it up to go ahead and finish the opponents and have Manny Steward losing his mind cause he wanted to see the prodigious talent push himself to truly show his dominance.
roy jones fights weren't boring tho
 

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You all really aren't taking into account concussions and the mental damage that less cautious fighters take to entertain you fukks. Folks like GSP and Floyd don't take much damage and thus won't turn into suicidal vegetables when they're 50+ years old
 

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You all really aren't taking into account concussions and the mental damage that less cautious fighters take to entertain you fukks. Folks like GSP and Floyd don't take much damage and thus won't turn into suicidal vegetables when they're 50+ years old

for the last fukking time, stop comparing GSP to floyd :what:

they dont equate
 

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for the last fukking time, stop comparing GSP to floyd :what:

they dont equate
Why the hell are you mad for? They do equate in the sense that both of them have fighting styles that results in an avoidance of damage to their craniums, I don't see how you can argue that.
 

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Why the hell are you mad for? They do equate in the sense that both of them have fighting styles that results in an avoidance of damage to their craniums, I don't see how you can argue that.

I think the floyd comparison is a stretch because money may uses a very dangerous style. the philly shell is a risky defense that sacrifices some coverage for the ability to counterpunch more swiftly. there's a reason its not widely used at the highest level. it takes a master like floyd or a james toney to use it effectively. its not a "safe" style. one mental slip up and floyd gets cracked

GSP's best quality is his wrestling. its his security blanket. when things get hairy, take him down. in MMA the judging is skewed towards wrestling so takedowns score big. its the reason why a guy like ben askren who has great wrestling but below-average skills in everything else can have success in MMA.

GSP is like a more athletic klitschko.. similar safe robotic style but without the finishes
 

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I think the floyd comparison is a stretch because money may uses a very dangerous style. the philly shell is a risky defense that sacrifices some coverage for the ability to counterpunch more swiftly. there's a reason its not widely used at the highest level. it takes a master like floyd or a james toney to use it effectively. its not a "safe" style. one mental slip up and floyd gets cracked

GSP's best quality is his wrestling. its his security blanket. when things get hairy, take him down. in MMA the judging is skewed towards wrestling so takedowns score big. its the reason why a guy like ben askren who has great wrestling but below-average skills in everything else can have success in MMA.

GSP is like a more athletic klitschko.. similar safe robotic style but without the finishes

Why do you look at wrestling as a "security blanket" and not what it actually is: a form of martial arts. You're treating wrestling as if it's inferior to boxing. It may not be as fun to watch, but it's not inferior.
 
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