Title Edit: Under 2012 Turnout Rates HRC Would've Narrowly Won the Election

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MAY 8 2017 12:11 PM
Low Black Turnout May Have Cost Clinton the Election

By Osita Nwanevu

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People cast their votes for president on Nov. 8 at Centreville High School in Centreville, Virginia.

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A new analysis of November’s election published in the Washington Post on Monday suggests that Hillary Clinton’s performance was damaged by a significant decline in turnout among black voters, especially in a few high-stakes states. From the Post:

Black turnout declined dramatically; white turnout increased noticeably; and Latino and Asian American turnout went up even more. In the key swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, those shifts were especially strong. How strong? Without those shifts in turnout from various racial and ethnic groups, these pivotal states might have gone not to Trump but to Clinton—giving Clinton an electoral college victory.
According to Demos’ Sean McElwee, UMass–Amherst’s Jesse Rhodes and Brian Schaffner, and Indiana University’s Bernard Fraga, black turnout declined by 4.7 points from 2012 nationally while white turnout increased by 2.4 points. Crucially, the drop in black turnout was even sharper in states where the margin of victory was less than 10 points than it was nationally—in those battleground states, black turnout dropped 5.3 points. In two critical states that swung to Trump—Michigan and Wisconsin—black turnout dropped by just more than 12 points. Declines were less dramatic but significant in other swing states Trump carried: Ohio (down 7.5 points), Florida (4.2), and Pennsylvania (2.1). White turnout declined modestly in each of those swing states but Florida and Pennsylvania, where it increased by 3.5 points and 5.2 points respectively. Clinton lost each of those swing states but Ohio by a margin of less than 2 points.

The researchers found that, as many predicted, Hispanic turnout increased significantly—by 3.8 points nationally. Asian turnout also increased nationally by 3 points. Both groups skew Democratic. But neither boost was enough to save Clinton.

The researchers found that at 2012 levels of turnout among all racial groups, Clinton probably would have won the election with very narrow victories in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Those states are important outliers: “In 12 of the 15 battleground states this past election,” they write, “2012 turnout rates would have made no difference in who won.”

As many analysts have pointed out since the election, turnout only partly explains Clinton’s loss. It is clear that Trump managed to convert a significant number of Obama voters, especially among the white working class in the aforementioned swing states. But it seems equally clear that higher black turnout could have blunted the impact of those losses and might have even put Clinton over the top.

Of note: Voting laws aimed at depressing minority turnout were in effect in Wisconsin and Ohio in 2016 but not 2012. On the other hand, black voters didn't face new restrictions in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida, while a New York Times dispatch from late November suggests that a lack of enthusiasm played an important role in depressing black turnout in Wisconsin and elsewhere. Sabrina Tavernise paid a visit to Milwaukee's majority-black District 15, where turnout declined by almost 20 percent from 2012:

At Upper Cutz, a bustling barbershop in a green-trimmed wooden house, talk of politics inevitably comes back to one man: Barack Obama. [...] All four barbers had voted for Mr. Obama. But only two could muster the enthusiasm to vote this time. And even then, it was a sort of protest. One wrote in Mrs. Clinton’s Democratic opponent, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. The other wrote in himself.
Barber Jahn Toney told Tavernise that no president in his lifetime, including Obama, had significantly improved the lives of black people. “It’s like I should have known this would happen," he said. "We’re worse off than before.” Toney wrote in Bernie Sanders.




Osita Nwanevu is a Slate editorial assistant.
 

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MAY 8 2017 12:11 PM
Low Black Turnout May Have Cost Clinton the Election

By Osita Nwanevu

621765550-people-cast-their-votes-for-us-president-november-8-at.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg

People cast their votes for president on Nov. 8 at Centreville High School in Centreville, Virginia.

Paul J. Richards/AFP/Getty Images

A new analysis of November’s election published in the Washington Post on Monday suggests that Hillary Clinton’s performance was damaged by a significant decline in turnout among black voters, especially in a few high-stakes states. From the Post:

Black turnout declined dramatically; white turnout increased noticeably; and Latino and Asian American turnout went up even more. In the key swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, those shifts were especially strong. How strong? Without those shifts in turnout from various racial and ethnic groups, these pivotal states might have gone not to Trump but to Clinton—giving Clinton an electoral college victory.
According to Demos’ Sean McElwee, UMass–Amherst’s Jesse Rhodes and Brian Schaffner, and Indiana University’s Bernard Fraga, black turnout declined by 4.7 points from 2012 nationally while white turnout increased by 2.4 points. Crucially, the drop in black turnout was even sharper in states where the margin of victory was less than 10 points than it was nationally—in those battleground states, black turnout dropped 5.3 points. In two critical states that swung to Trump—Michigan and Wisconsin—black turnout dropped by just more than 12 points. Declines were less dramatic but significant in other swing states Trump carried: Ohio (down 7.5 points), Florida (4.2), and Pennsylvania (2.1). White turnout declined modestly in each of those swing states but Florida and Pennsylvania, where it increased by 3.5 points and 5.2 points respectively. Clinton lost each of those swing states but Ohio by a margin of less than 2 points.

The researchers found that, as many predicted, Hispanic turnout increased significantly—by 3.8 points nationally. Asian turnout also increased nationally by 3 points. Both groups skew Democratic. But neither boost was enough to save Clinton.

The researchers found that at 2012 levels of turnout among all racial groups, Clinton probably would have won the election with very narrow victories in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Those states are important outliers: “In 12 of the 15 battleground states this past election,” they write, “2012 turnout rates would have made no difference in who won.”

As many analysts have pointed out since the election, turnout only partly explains Clinton’s loss. It is clear that Trump managed to convert a significant number of Obama voters, especially among the white working class in the aforementioned swing states. But it seems equally clear that higher black turnout could have blunted the impact of those losses and might have even put Clinton over the top.

Of note: Voting laws aimed at depressing minority turnout were in effect in Wisconsin and Ohio in 2016 but not 2012. On the other hand, black voters didn't face new restrictions in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Florida, while a New York Times dispatch from late November suggests that a lack of enthusiasm played an important role in depressing black turnout in Wisconsin and elsewhere. Sabrina Tavernise paid a visit to Milwaukee's majority-black District 15, where turnout declined by almost 20 percent from 2012:

At Upper Cutz, a bustling barbershop in a green-trimmed wooden house, talk of politics inevitably comes back to one man: Barack Obama. [...] All four barbers had voted for Mr. Obama. But only two could muster the enthusiasm to vote this time. And even then, it was a sort of protest. One wrote in Mrs. Clinton’s Democratic opponent, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. The other wrote in himself.
Barber Jahn Toney told Tavernise that no president in his lifetime, including Obama, had significantly improved the lives of black people. “It’s like I should have known this would happen," he said. "We’re worse off than before.” Toney wrote in Bernie Sanders.




Osita Nwanevu is a Slate editorial assistant.

Not surprised; African-Americans didn't really have a dog in this race. Both candidates didn't have a good platform addressing issues in the black community. Trump's platform amounted to "what the hell do you have to lose," which is horrible. Clinton's habit of stifling dissent from black Democrats turned a lot of younger Black voters off.
 
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Of course they want to pin it on black folks. No surprises here.
Not at all. It's based on data that shows that black voters voted at a lower rate than expected (marginally) and because of that, HRC was not able to compensate for the shift of white voters to Trump. In total, Trump won 1/4 of the working class white voters that had supported Obama. White people and Latinos are the groups that experienced the biggest increases in participation in this election. Trump's ability to galvanize white people who would typically not vote plus him taking away voters that Obama had won = victory. However, had black people showed up at 2012 or 2008 rates, then this could've been fought off in the midwest and HRC would've NARROWLY won. But the biggest takeaway is that turnout overall was not the biggest factor in this election, that has now been demonstrated. HRC legitimately lost working class white votes that Obama had.

Also, Republican voter suppression efforts in Wisconsin were enough to cost her that state.
 

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The decline guarantees they are going to push some Black neo liberal who could give a damn about Black politics onto the ticket. The thing is will we as a community be ready for the con or will we once again get caught up in symbolism over actual policy :mjpls:
 

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I couldn't vote for her because of the email issue

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Also Trump is an outsider so he's got that going for him. It's not like he's going to fill his appointments with Goldman Sachs executives and corporate types. I feel like Trump is offering us a true progressive revolution with his election. He'll put the American people first. We can trust him.
 

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I couldn't vote for her because of the email issue

:manny:

Also Trump is an outsider so he's got that going for him. It's not like he's going to fill his appointments with Goldman Sachs executives and corporate types. I feel like Trump is offering us a true progressive revolution with his election. He'll put the American people first. We can trust him.
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Not at all. It's based on data that shows that black voters voted at a lower rate than expected (marginally) and because of that, HRC was not able to compensate for the shift of white voters to Trump. In total, Trump won 1/4 of the working class white voters that had supported Obama. White people and Latinos are the groups that experienced the biggest increases in participation in this election. Trump's ability to galvanize white people who would typically not vote plus him taking away voters that Obama had won = victory. However, had black people showed up at 2012 or 2008 rates, then this could've been fought off in the midwest and HRC would've NARROWLY won. But the biggest takeaway is that turnout overall was not the biggest factor in this election, that has now been demonstrated. HRC legitimately lost working class white votes that Obama had.

Also, Republican voter suppression efforts in Wisconsin were enough to cost her that state.


I get all that, but let's watch in the next week or so how this is digested by the party's base. Secondly, comparing turnout to 2008 and 2012 is just stupid. Anyone expecting Hillary or ANY other candidate to get the same black turnout as Obama is being very dense.
 
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