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Has he won any title matches clean? :dahell:
 

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Has he won any title matches clean? :dahell:
He's a heel :why: Winning matches clean or not doesn't make or break a heel champ. Seth's run as champ has ultimately been a flop because the dude just isn't ready. He's basically been what people assumed Roman would be. Just unpolished on the mic, and coming off a level below everyone he's working around. Trips, Steph, and Jamie Noble have routinely come off as the bright spot in all those promo segments. And his work in-ring has, as it's always been in his career, really hit or miss.


Plus the Dean feud ended with him getting a clean W. It was as close as possible to keep Dean looking good, but he straight up beat him.
 
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He's a heel :why: Winning matches clean or not doesn't make or break a heel champ. Seth's run as champ has ultimately been a flop because the dude just isn't ready. He's basically been what people assumed Roman would be. Just unpolished on the mic, and coming off a level below everyone he's working around. Trips, Steph, and Jamie Noble have routinely come off as the bright spot in all those promo segments. And his work in-ring has, as it's always been in his career, really hit or miss.

Plus the Dean feud ended with him getting a clean W. It was as close as possible to keep Dean looking good, but he straight up beat him.
This aint got shyt to do with not being ready :rudy: Seth is as ready as anyone on the roster. He has NO credibility because he has to win like a p*ssy every single time & play lackey to the authority

He has been good on the mic as well
 
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From 93-94 wcw used the big gold belt titled "wcw international heavyweight championship" after it left NWA. Rick rude was the champion for half a year.

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Those are some quality champs right there
 

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This aint got shyt to do with not being ready :rudy: Seth is as ready as anyone on the roster. He has NO credibility because he has to win like a p*ssy every single time & play lackey to the authority

He has been good on the mic as well
Bruh, heels don't win clean, and they shouldn't. It's the oldest fukking convention in wrestling. Exactly who did Hollywood Hogan beat clean? Corporate Rock? Evolution HHH beat people clean and look how terrible that run was. Every great heel in wrestling "won like a p*ssy" that's why you boo them. Ministry Taker won with help, DX Shawn, Ric with the Horsemen, Power Trip Austin literally we can go on for a million years with this.

And no, his mic work has not been good. It's been the definition of mediocre. He's had the belt for four months and doesn't have a single promo he can hang his hat on despite getting more time to talk than anyone week to week.

It has everything to do with not being ready.

The Rock couldn't get clean wins over fukking Mick Foley (and even lost to him :dead:) and yet he killed it and became a star.

Plus they really mis-cast this. Seth has only really worked as a face where he doesn't have to be compelling on the mic, he can just keep it short and say shyt that pops the crowd, and go out in the ring and hit all his big spots and get people into him that way.

Dean was the one known for heel mic work, and Seth was the one known for doing insane things that got the people behind him, and WWE pushed them in roles opposite to what their strengths are.

Seth has been called the next Jeff Hardy since he was 19, and they really had him out here trying out a HHH impression :mindblown: Every great moment Seth has had in the WWE has involved some huge spot. That =/= a corporate heel champ.

He absolutely doesn't have the charisma or the presence to pull this off. He never has, and he hasn't shown it now.
 

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Bruh, heels don't win clean, and they shouldn't. It's the oldest fukking convention in wrestling. Exactly who did Hollywood Hogan beat clean? Corporate Rock? Evolution HHH beat people clean and look how terrible that run was. Every great heel in wrestling "won like a p*ssy" that's why you boo them. Ministry Taker won with help, DX Shawn, Ric with the Horsemen, Power Trip Austin literally we can go on for a million years with this.

And no, his mic work has not been good. It's been the definition of mediocre. He's had the belt for four months and doesn't have a single promo he can hang his hat on despite getting more time to talk than anyone week to week.

It has everything to do with not being ready.

The Rock couldn't get clean wins over fukking Mick Foley (and even lost to him :dead:) and yet he killed it and became a star.

Plus they really mis-cast this. Seth has only really worked as a face where he doesn't have to be compelling on the mic, he can just keep it short and say shyt that pops the crowd, and go out in the ring and hit all his big spots and get people into him that way.

Dean was the one known for heel mic work, and Seth was the one known for doing insane things that got the people behind him, and WWE pushed them in roles opposite to what their strengths are.

Seth has been called the next Jeff Hardy since he was 19, and they really had him out here trying out a HHH impression :mindblown: Every great moment Seth has had in the WWE has involved some huge spot. That =/= a corporate heel champ.

He absolutely doesn't have the charisma or the presence to pull this off. He never has, and he hasn't shown it now.
Bullshyt

HHH's clean wins over foley MADE him

Orton's clean win over foley MADE him

Lesnar's clean wins over Undertaker/Rock/Hogan MADE him

Jay Lethal just became a legit main eventer by beating Jay Briscoe CLEAN in the middle of the ring

Owens was on his way to being made after that first CLEAN win over Cena

This is a competitive sport, every heel does nit need to be a p*ssy chickenshyt
 

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He's a heel :mindblown: The chicken shyt heel booking has been used since the beginning of time. He's suppose to be cheating. History shows that it's a winning formula when done properly.
Yet here we are shytting on his title run :leostare:
 
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