TK Kirkland: Black Women are the Only Race Who Say "I Don't Need a Man"

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

I sound like a defeatist? No I’m just pointing out what been laid out? I’m not trying to control anything, just giving my opinion. Seems like you’re taking my post personal. What’s with the character attacks? I would like to talk more about this but I see where you are going.

Nah, I take it personal from the standpoint that you seem to be of the opinion that mainstream attitudes reflect real life experiences of black women because of a few bitter disengaged women who don't like black men. No character attacks on my part, no reason for it. It just appears that you take issue with us stating that "black women need black men" for functional relationships.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Nah, I take it personal from the standpoint that you seem to be of the opinion that mainstream attitudes reflect real life experiences of black women because of a few bitter disengaged women who don't like black men. No character attacks on my part, no reason for it. It just appears that you take issue with us stating that "black women need black men" for functional relationships.

A bitter few?? Okay.


Nicole, nothing I typed is personal. I don’t have to lie to you, it’s not that serious. I’m just pointing out how they try to separate the Black man and Black woman. You did attack my character by calling me a defeatist. You don’t know me, you don’t know what I do. I’m FAR from a defeatist. I pointed out the plan of the system and how it worked. This goes back to the slavery days. It “appears” that I take issue with yall stating that, “ black women need black men”??? Wth are you talking about? WHERE did I oppose that? Receipts please. I’m stating my opinion and my experiences that I’ve saw or heard. You feel different, fine.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Thats you though, i literally know a good amount of bw who have shyttty fathers, shytty brothers and shytty uncles, had shytty relationship to with BM. Where only the women in their family get degrees, have careers, raise families etc

These are the BW most are talking about.- it ain't all but id say a sizeable amount

That's a separate issue - what does that have to do with the topic of the thread? Not every black men is on some negative shyt, negative experiences don't make up the man - it's his reaction and coping skills that do. Not everyone's situation is the same, of course. However, I'm not around women and don't know women who wholesale shyt on black men day after day, or say "I don't need a man", because of negative experiences they had with a few. Everyone of us has a shytty family member, that's par for the course. If it's a sizable amount of black women that you know saying this, then you need to change your socialization and be around more positive supportive black women. Because if this is the attitude that you carry, then the type of women that you gravitate to, might be reflective of you.

Like some reverse psychology shyt going on in here - the black women in the thread are actually saying we don't believe in the anti-black male rhetoric and you're challenging us bc our opinions don't fit the description. It's almost like you want black women in this thread to be on some brainwashed bullshyt "black men aint shyt or f black men, "sistas doing it for ourselves", in order to give you a reason or justify how you feel about black women??

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

That's a separate issue - what does that have to do with the topic of the thread? Not every black men is on some negative shyt, negative experiences don't make up the man - it's his reaction and coping skills that do. Not everyone's situation is the same, of course. However, I'm not around women and don't know women who wholesale shyt on black men day after day, or say "I don't need a man", because of negative experiences they had with a few. Everyone of us has a shytty family member, that's par for the course. If it's a sizable amount of black women that you know saying this, then you need to change your socialization and be around more positive supportive black women. Because if this is the attitude that you carry, then the type of women that you gravitate to, might be reflective of you.

Like some reverse psychology shyt going on in here - the black women in the thread are actually saying we don't believe in the anti-black male rhetoric and you're challenging us bc our opinions don't fit the description. It's almost like you want black women in this thread to be on some brainwashed bullshyt "black men aint shyt or f black men, "sistas doing it for ourselves", in order to give you a reason or justify how you feel about black women??

See that’s the issue. We’re NOT talking about the Black women in this thread. We’re talking about those who think like that. How did this become about you (y’all)? If it don’t apply let it fly, that simple

 

[Antwon Mitchell]

I've personally never heard black women I know say "I don't need a man" now I've seen comments on Facebook etc but even then I feel those women are just frontin/flexing hard on some "I can do bad all by myself" shyt.

Every woman out here dreams of having a man besides them romantically since they've been in middle school/highschool I have younger sisters who used to be in their rooms giggling about living foreverly ever after with their boyfriends turned husbands. Ain't no woman out here alive dreams of living her life alone till the day she dies that's BS .

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Exhibit B

How long have you hated black women?

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

See that’s the issue. We’re NOT talking about the Black women in this thread. We’re talking about those who think like that. How did this become about you (y’all)? If it don’t apply let it fly, that simple

This discussion about black women twitterist talkers who state "black women don't need a man"- what's the end game with that?? You can't reason with someone that doesn't want to be reasoned with. So you rather debate the female man haters issue as to why they have their negative opinion; rather than engage in an actual real time discussion with actual black women who show support and want to work together - sounds counterproductive to me bc it seems both sides are looking for a reason to hate and bash each other instead of figuring out solutions to work with the men or women that do f with yall. But to each his own. I see this is made into a gender wars thing. I refuse to engage in that type of vibe. I'm off this.

 

[badtguy]

That's a separate issue - what does that have to do with the topic of the thread? Not every black men is on some negative shyt, negative experiences don't make up the man - it's his reaction and coping skills that do. Not everyone's situation is the same, of course. However, I'm not around women and don't know women who wholesale shyt on black men day after day, or say "I don't need a man", because of negative experiences they had with a few. Everyone of us has a shytty family member, that's par for the course. If it's a sizable amount of black women that you know saying this, then you need to change your socialization and be around more positive supportive black women. Because if this is the attitude that you carry, then the type of women that you gravitate to, might be reflective of you.

Like some reverse psychology shyt going on in here - the black women in the thread are actually saying we don't believe in the anti-black male rhetoric and you're challenging us bc our opinions don't fit the description. It's almost like you want black women in this thread to be on some brainwashed bullshyt "black men aint shyt or f black men, "sistas doing it for ourselves", in order to give you a reason or justify how you feel about black women??

I dont feel any type of way about bw- what I said is there are definitely a certain type bw that are on that type of time. obviously a bw who father been in jail, brother been in jail, different baby mother is different than a bw who father was the provider, kept his family in order.

Its almost as if you think that all black women lived the same life as you?

See that’s the issue. We’re NOT talking about the Black women in this thread. We’re talking about those who think like that. How did this become about you (y’all)? If it don’t apply let it fly, that simple

Basically, we've said its not all but certain ones- I dont know why thats hard to believe.

Any man that has dated different types of black women has come across those types of black women who didn't grow up with a father, brother can't get a job cause he has a record, siblings with different fathers or father with different baby mothers, they are the first to graduate college in the fam, they are the first to do alot of shyt in those family dynamics. So they tend to think they are better than their brothers family etc.

Like I dont know what shorty not getting about there ARE black women who have those family dynamics.

 

[macadomusic]

Sounds like he hasn't been around white women

 

[Ya?]

I don’t mind the criticism, what I do mind is when people claim they want to address the issue but scapegoat rather than address the root cause of a problem.

The type of black women who say this often come from a long line of absentee fathers generationally. Many who have had or have interaction with men see that these men bring nothing to their lives and are far better off without them than with them.

But of course no one wants to truly open the Pandora’s box and rather stick to the system rather than the root of the problem.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

This discussion about black women twitterist talkers who state "black women don't need a man"- what's the end game with that?? You can't reason with someone that doesn't want to be reasoned with. So you rather debate the female man haters issue as to why they have their negative opinion; rather than engage in an actual real time discussion with actual black women who show support and want to work together - sounds counterproductive to me bc it seems both sides are looking for a reason to hate and bash each other instead of figuring out solutions to work with the men or women that do f with yall. But to each his own. I see this is made into a gender wars thing. I refuse to engage in that type of vibe. I'm off this.

What’s wrong with you??? The hell are you talking about??? I’m not debating anything. Did you actually read what I posted?

You took this simple difference of opinion and placed it somewhere else

 

[Taadow]

How long have you hated black women?

How long have not known Black women don't love you?

 

[Phantom Dreamer]

I don't know about that homie!

It's definitely a thing among black women who have daddy issues or trust issues concerning black men.

There is a certain type of bw who have never had a father, step father or any positive black male role models in their life so those types are skeptical or cautious about marrying bm who are the traditional types. These types usually envision themselves as working mothers without actually needing a bm as a father who is a provider in the household.

Not sure if you've dated bw but there are definitely many bw who are skeptical if a bm who is atrractive, hardworking traditional, not lazy, no criminal record wants to date them.

There definitely broken bw out there. I've dated girls who dad's were locked up or murdered and something is always off about them emotionally.

these nikkas didn't grow up in the hood basically

 

[Pure Water]

Breh really look like Homer Simpson. I'm amazed every time I see him. shyt is uncanny.