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2nd gen immigrant is a term describing a certain group of people. I don’t really care how you feel about the term, the term is the term. Get a petition going for Wikipedia to change if you feel so strongly about it.

Also Malcolm x had an ADOS parent. He was in fact half immigrant, but half ADOS . You trying to brush that off actually proves the point of people grouping native black people and immigrants.

Also none of this shows the ADOS black people vs immigrant crime.



Can you show me the ADOS vs immigrant crime stats or not?
What is wrong with you? It’s already been posted in Rhakim’s links. Here’s another from 2007. 21% (native blacks) federally sentenced vs. just 2% for illegal blacks.

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Immigrants, legal and illegal commit crimes at lower rates than native born Americans.

Black immigrants are a subset of immigrants. Black descendants of slaves are a subset of Americans.

Suggesting that the 1 or 2 out of 10 black people here who are immigrants could be INCREASING overall crime rates when...

A. immigrants across the board commit lower rates of crime than the national average...

B. the native black population commits crimes at a disproportionately higher rate than the national average...

...would require throwing math in the bushes.

The only reason we’re having this ludicrous conversation is cause of Tariq’s dumb ass twitter fingers. It’s not an actual debatable topic.
 

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tariq spouting neo nazi rhetoric, and these #ados fools eating it up

you hate to see it
in your opinion how does tariq's baseless xenophobia compare to the "ghana must go" campaign where nigeria expelled over 2 million ghanians in two weeks?:sas1: the info is freely available so you can google the "ghana must go" campaign or watch the youtube video before you make your reply.:smugfavre:
 

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What is wrong with you? It’s already been posted in Rhakim’s links. Here’s another from 2007.

2009-federal-crime-01.png


Immigrants, legal and illegal commit crimes at lower rates than native born Americans.

Black immigrants are a subset of immigrants. Black descendants of slaves are a subset of Americans.

Suggesting that the 1 or 2 out of 10 black people here who are immigrants could be INCREASING overall crime rates when...

A. immigrants across the board commit lower rates of crime than the national average...

B. the native black population commits crimes at a disproportionately higher rate than the national average...

...would require throwing math in the bushes.
Looking at the fukking graph, do you not see that immigrants add on to their respective race's crime stats? That's literally what Tariq said in the tweet you posted.

Plus you just said immigrants don't commit as much crime as citizens, when the Hispanic immigrants commit more crimes than the citizens, so you just defeated your own argument
 

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Looking at the fukking graph, do you not see that immigrants add on to their respective race's crime stats?

Plus you just said immigrants don't commit as much crime as citizens, when the Hispanic immigrants commit more crimes than the citizens, so you just defeated your own argument
:skip:in his defense, when he says immigrants commit less crimes than citizens that's codespeak for ADOS citizens
 

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What is wrong with you? It’s already been posted in Rhakim’s links. Here’s another from 2007. 21% (native blacks) federally sentenced vs. just 2% for illegal blacks.

2009-federal-crime-01.png


Immigrants, legal and illegal commit crimes at lower rates than native born Americans.

Black immigrants are a subset of immigrants. Black descendants of slaves are a subset of Americans.

Suggesting that the 1 or 2 out of 10 black people here who are immigrants could be INCREASING overall crime rates when...

A. immigrants across the board commit lower rates of crime than the national average...

B. the native black population commits crimes at a disproportionately higher rate than the national average...

...would require throwing math in the bushes.

The only reason we’re having this ludicrous conversation is cause of Tariq’s dumb ass twitter fingers. It’s not an actual debatable topic.
This graph is not showing native black crime stat separated and in comparison to immigrant groups.

Do you have the stats for that or not?

Also that Hispanic stat is clearly being skyrocketed by illegals
 

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:ld:the topic is right on track, you brought up tariq being xenophobic against nigerian immigrants, correct?:mjgrin: so how is "ghana must go" where 2 million ghanians were suddenly uprooted and expelled from their home by nigeria an "immigration concern" but not xenophobia? so once again, in your opinion how does tariq's baseless xenophobia compare to the "ghana must go" campaign where nigeria expelled over 2 million ghanians in two weeks?:sas1:
:russ: No, I brought up Tariq making up pure 100% non-factual bullshyt which you and none of your Tariqalites in this thread cannot even attempt to defend without making complete asses of yourself almost 100 posts in...that happens to be xenophobic.

You know his claim is pure garbage, so you’re attempting a pitiful deflection by focusing on my description of his tweets as “xenophobic” (which it obviously was) and playing a game of non-sequitur whataboutism asking me to compare his xenophobia to an issue of Ghanian politics and it’s pathetic.

You are tying yourself in rhetorical knots and shytting all over yourself in the process because you cannot bear to confront the reality that your father figure is full of shyt.
 
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Lol you the stupid motherfukka telling black American born citizens you want a racist paramilitary agency to deport them, as if that were even legal or makes any sense.

If I talk like you a cracker cause I called you an internet name, you think like a cracker and have the soul of one, you dumb MAGA blackface piece of shyt.

When are you going to upload that video eating a live squirrel you back peddling peasant
 

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So tariqs point stands. :unimpressed:
No, none of his points stand.

Joy said that immigrants have lower crime rates. Tariq said that wasn't true. Tariq was lying.

Tariq also claimed that Black immigrant crime isn't counted in immigrant crime statistics. Which was also a lie.

Tariq's "point" that you claim he got right was that Black immigrant crime gets counted in Black crime statistics. But that point doesn't stand because including immigrant crime numbers makes the Black crime rate go DOWN, not up. Literally the exact opposite of Tariq's point.



Malcolms father was full blown ados. And he himself was born in America. shyt like this is why I cant take u guys seriously
The guy I was responding to literally said that being born in America was irrelevant, if you are the child of an immigrant you are an immigrant too. And Malcolm's mother was an immigrant, so he was the child of an immigrant. Are you denying that Malcolm X was the child of an immigrant?



Looking at the fukking graph, do you not see that immigrants add on to their respective race's crime stats? That's literally what Tariq said in the tweet you posted.

Plus you just said immigrants don't commit as much crime as citizens, when the Hispanic immigrants commit more crimes than the citizens, so you just defeated your own argument
:snoop:

You do know the difference between crime TOTALS and crime RATES, right? :heh:

And you just proved that you didn't read any of the studies, because if you had you would have seen that most of the illegal latinos in federal lockup are there for immigration violations, not for actual federal crimes. The illegal immigrant crime rate among latinos is less than half of the native crime rate.



2nd gen immigrant is a term describing a certain group of people. I don’t really care how you feel about the term, the term is the term. Get a petition going for Wikipedia to change if you feel so strongly about it.

Also Malcolm x had an ADOS parent. He was in fact half immigrant, but half ADOS . You trying to brush that off actually proves the point of people grouping native black people and immigrants.
So was Malcolm X an immigrant or not? Because like I said, until this discussion I had NEVER heard anyone refer to him as an immigrant, and when I suggested that he would be an immigrant by your definition, multiple people mocked me and one negged me. But now you're admitting that he is an immigrant by your definition, right?

Now, show one person in the entire 7-year history of the Coli who has ever called Malcolm X an "immigrant" or a "half-immigrant". Do people call Biggie an immigrant, even though both of his parents immigrated? Or Busta or KRS-One or any of the others? Do people in TLR ever call Trump an immigrant even though his mother and father's father were both immigrants

Come on now.



Also none of this shows the ADOS black people vs immigrant crime.

Can you show me the ADOS vs immigrant crime stats or not?
Read the studies. They show that immigrant crime is lower than native crime across all races, and since Black crime rates are higher than White or Latino crime rates the difference is even larger. Educate yourself, please.
 

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This graph is not showing native black crime stat separated and in comparison to immigrant groups.

Do you have the stats for that or not?

Also that Hispanic stat is clearly being skyrocketed by illegals

Blind or illiterate, which one is it? Again, this divides up black sentenced federal offenders into citizens and non-citizens and the disparity was 21% to 2%.

What is wrong with you? It’s already been posted in Rhakim’s links. Here’s another from 2007. 21% (native blacks) federally sentenced vs. just 2% for illegal blacks.

2009-federal-crime-01.png


Immigrants, legal and illegal commit crimes

Suggesting that the 1 or 2 out of 10 black people here who are immigrants could be INCREASING overall crime rates when...

A. immigrants across the board commit lower rates of crime than the national average...

B. the native black population commits crimes at a disproportionately higher rate than the national average...

...would require throwing math in the bushes.

The only reason we’re having this ludicrous conversation is cause of Tariq’s dumb ass twitter fingers. It’s not an actual debatable topic.

Now my question to you again, is why are you putting the onus on me to debunk Tariq’s claim with facts (which I did), and not asking the same of the moron who made the baseless claim?

If you feel the desire to reply to me again without addressing the accuracy of Tariq’s claim, go ahead but I won’t respond.
 

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:russ: No, I brought up Tariq making up pure 100% non-factual bullshyt which you and none of your Tariqalites in this thread cannot even attempt to defend without making complete asses of yourself almost 100 posts in...that happens to be xenophobic.

You know his claim is pure garbage, so you’re attempting a pitiful deflection by focusing on my description of his tweets as “xenophobic” (which it obviously was) and playing a game of non-sequitur whataboutism asking me to compare his xenophobia to an issue of Ghanian politics and it’s pathetic.

You are tying yourself in rhetorical knots and shytting all over yourself in the process because you cannot bear to confront the reality that your father figure is full of shyt.
 

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:russ: No, I brought up Tariq making up pure 100% non-factual bullshyt which you and none of your Tariqalites in this thread cannot even attempt to defend without making complete asses of yourself almost 100 posts in...that happens to be xenophobic.

You know his claim is pure garbage, so you’re attempting a pitiful deflection by focusing on my description of his tweets as “xenophobic” (which it obviously was) and playing a game of non-sequitur whataboutism asking me to compare his xenophobia to an issue of Ghanian politics and it’s pathetic.

You are tying yourself in rhetorical knots and shytting all over yourself in the process because you cannot bear to confront the reality that your father figure is full of shyt.
So you refuse to answer my question, right?:mjgrin:
 

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No, none of his points stand.

Joy said that immigrants have lower crime rates. Tariq said that wasn't true. Tariq was lying.

Tariq also claimed that Black immigrant crime isn't counted in immigrant crime statistics. Which was also a lie.

Tariq's "point" that you claim he got right was that Black immigrant crime gets counted in Black crime statistics. But that point doesn't stand because including immigrant crime numbers makes the Black crime rate go DOWN, not up. Literally the exact opposite of Tariq's point.
You need to read the tweet again cause Tariq is talking about HOW IMMIGRANTS, SPECIFICALLY BLACK ONES, ARE ADDED TO THEIR RACES CRIME STATS
 
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