Of course there are no nations with a history "similar to the US", conservatives use that in every discussion from gun control to health care to social democratic programs in order to excuse why stuff that works out in the rest of the world supposedly wouldn't' work here.
that wasnt my point, my point is that in the countries you pointed out, multiple languages does not work, those are countries were political divisions are driven by language differences and where the language blocks can easily break up into separate countries like what almost happened in canada, there is no logical reason to use those countries as examples for the us to follow
Two of these "basic parts of american history" that only a dense person like me can catch.
First off, it was primarily WW1, not WW2, where the taboo against speaking German really shut down German speaking communities. (Though
heavily German-speaking communities still exist to this day in America, not to mention
hundreds of thousands of Amish/Mennonites who still speak Pennsylvania Dutch.)
Second, the death of German speaking communities that came around the world wars occurred over TWO HUNDRED YEARS after those German-speaking communities started. Meaning that it took numerous generations for the German's to "assimilate" to that degree. It took multiple generations for the Italians to assimilate. It took multiple generations for some Jewish communities to assimilate.
im not follwing what your point is, i thought your point was that spanish speaking people do not have to lose their language, when i point that europeans immigrants assimilated and lost their language nit picking over the exact number of generations or when exactly they lost it isnt bolstering your point that spanish speaking immigrants need to keep their language
the bottom line is brokaws comments are perfectly inline with the history of non english speaking immgrants, which is that non english speaking immigrants eventually assimilate and lose their language
now that we have concluded that european immigrants did lose their language, please explain what is so special about spanish speaking immigrants that they shoudlnt also be expected to lose their language?
There have been tons of Spanish-speaking communities in America for centuries. It's just that each one tends to assimilate over a few generations. The recent rise is because there was an influx in immigrants from the 1980s to the early 2000s, they'll assimilate too. Just give them a few generations like everyone else gets. It's only the hyped up MAGA crew and their cousins who think that every community has to immediately assimilate the moment they land in the country or something's wrong with them.
its not MAGA, andi ts not new, its been a point driven for the past 100 years
this is a quote from teddy roosvelt
https://www.truthorfiction.com/roosevelt-immigration/
We should insist that if the immigrant who comes here does in good faith become an
American and assimilates himself to us he shall be treated on an exact equality with every one else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed or birth-place or origin.
But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American.If he tries to keep segregated with men of his own origin and separated from the rest of America, then he isn't doing his part as an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. . . We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language, for we intend to see that the crucible turns our people out as Americans, of American nationality, and not as dwellers in a polyglot boarding-house; and we have room for but one soul loyalty, and that is loyalty to the American people.
what brokaw is saying is just derivative of that, it was a widely held belief 100 yeas ago and its part of the reason why so many european immigrants lost their language
whats curious is that people think opposing this traditional american assimilation ideology is somehow something that black people need to oppose, that black people need to go take a political bullet for non english speaking immigrants, when the non english speaking immigrants have anti black views and its a intra euopean issue only that is tangential to black people
there are no tangible benefits to black people from the us becoming bilingual or multilingual, IMO, this is an issue where black people need to let cacs cac, so to speak
