Tom Brokaw facing criticism for comments on Hispanics: "they need to assimilate better"

[CoryMack]

A second ago you were saying "if this were a Black-run nation", now you're saying that your only standard is what White Americans do?







So you're now claiming that the "problem" you were just complaining about doesn't exist?

Either there are large pockets of people speaking Spanish in this country or there ain't. Which is it?

German pockets were cool in the 1700s and 1800s, Italian and Yiddish pockets were just fine in the 1900s, and Spanish pockets have been here damn near continuously since before there were even English speakers on the continent. There ain't even an official language in America.

IIf any nation on the planet was administered by Blacks you telling me there wouldn't be an official or common language? It's not my standard, it's the standard of the people running the planet.

We're not in the 1700's what the fukk are you even talking about?

This is really a dumb convo. Anyone who's lived in this country for the last 100 years knows what the language is here. You can talk about the little pockets where mufukkas speak their language amonst themselves all you want, but you're not proving anything. What language do you speak other than English?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Aside from very old immigrants, what immigrants are truly choosing not speaking English? The vast majority are speaking English, especially after 2 years of being here. Only a person who isn't around immigrants would say something like that. Especially when that idea is almost 40 years old and wasn't even true then.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

IIf any nation on the planet was administered by Blacks you telling me there wouldn't be an official or common language? It's not my standard, it's the standard of the people running the planet.

We're not in the 1700's what the fukk are you even talking about?

American education, brehs.

 

[CoryMack]

American education, brehs.

If we spent as half much time trying to get somewhere as we do looking for stupid little memes online then we probably wouldn’t be 2nd class citizens everywhere we go.

But I always say if it’s one thing nikkas have mastered its jokes. Still haven’t said how many languages you speak.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

If we spent as half much time trying to get somewhere as we do looking for stupid little memes online then we probably wouldn’t be 2nd class citizens everywhere we go.

But I always say if it’s one thing nikkas have mastered its jokes. Still haven’t said how many languages you speak.

Yo te diría que lenguas hablo leken yeh mere baat hai, aapka nahi to ana bikhair shukran.

 

[CoryMack]

Yo te diría que lenguas hablo leken yeh mere baat hai, aapka nahi to ana bikhair shukran.

diptle htes smaoregle yourafagtothenthdegree. comprehende?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Yo te diría que lenguas hablo leken yeh mere baat hai, aapka nahi to ana bikhair shukran.

I know I've heard of "shukran" before. Couldn't place where. Thank goodness for Google.

Impressive langset.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

diptle htes smaoregle yourafagtothenthdegree. comprehende?

Discussion in 'Higher Learning' started by dtownreppin214, Yesterday at 8:16 AM.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I know I've heard of "shukran" before. Couldn't place where. Thank goodness for Google.

Impressive langset.

That last one was cheating - I started learning to impress my future in-laws but let it slide early. I only use a few common phrases.

The other two I've been competent enough at to use in professional settings.

There's been a couple others that I learned situationally when work took me to the same place for a long time (I'm talking a working vocab of 2000-3000 words), but I wouldn't be able to do crap other than introduce myself, order food, and ask for directions now.

I'm not even a very good language learner. My wife kicks my ass in every one of those languages. But as long as you're in situations where the need arises pretty much anyone can do it if they just work at it.

 

[theworldismine13]

You must never have been to an African/European/Asian nation in your life then.

Tell me, what's the "common language" that all immigrants to must learn in Ethiopia "at the very least"? Nigeria? Or India? Switzerland?

Better yet, tell me when the FIRST year was when all dem European immigrants had to "at the very least" learn English and assimilate? When did it become wrong to have a German-speaking community? Italian? Yiddish?


Having multiple languages within a country isn't a new thing at all, it's a very old, very normal thing across most of the world for just about all of history. Spanish has been spoken on American soil for longer than English has.

none of the countries you mentioned have a history similar to the US and all of those countries have political divisions based on language, they are not examples for the us to follow, in fact anybody with anyone with sense should be horrified at the thought of the us being divided along language on top of the current political divisions, as i pointed out, canada almost self destructed over language divisions

the history of the assimilation of european immigrants (aka immigramts losing their language to become americans) is such a basic part of american history its mind boggling that people are disputing it, there were large german speaking communities but speaking german obviously became taboo after WWII, how can you be this dense? the history of italains losing their original language and culture and becoming american is documented in the Godfather movies, of course there are pockets here and there, of course there are vestiges of european culture in america but overall non english euopean languages disappeared in the us and english became overwhelmingly dominant, the rise of spanish is a recent phenomena in american history

 

[get these nets]

I watched the vid so I don’t need any help. Brokaw has every right to feel that way. He’s a white man. What, whites are supposed to stop being white because of your sensitivity? Because of history? You think they’re supposed to just give away the land they conquered because we feel it’s the “right” thing for them to do? Ok.

Let you in on a secret: I don’t want mixed grandbabies either. I, too, believe that interrmarriage is a problem. And I agree with the English part as well. I’m in Texas, and I see how they’re using the bilingual bit against Black people when it comes to city, county and state hiring. It’s also starting to spill over into the private sector.

The problem, as the late Dr Clarke said, is that we’ve been so long under the control of others that we’ve completely lost the knowledge of how to govern a nation.

If this was a Black run nation you would expect those who immigrated here to assimilate to a certain degree, but at the very least learn the common language.

I cosign the mixed descendants and inter marriage part.
I've speculated that some of the Black support for unchecked illegal immigration is driven by romantic interest / lust for hispanic partners(and mixed children). Speculation because I don't know what's going through another man's head.

Person who gets offended to hear that whites don't want mixed children is telling on themselves though. I always assumed that it is completely natural for people to want children to look like them....and to carry on their cultural heritage.

 

[Ugo Ogugwa]

Brokaw is right to a degree. I ain't mad at him and what he said wasn't racist.

Blacks had to assimilate to a degree. Motherfukkers don't get the right to come here and have everything catered to them. fukk no.

Look at Rollie immediately caping. SMH

Had to assimilate or were tortured into assimilation?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

That last one was cheating - I started learning to impress my future in-laws but let it slide early. I only use a few common phrases.

The other two I've been competent enough at to use in professional settings.

What was the middle one? Swahili? Zulu?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

none of the countries you mentioned have a history similar to the US and all of those countries have political divisions based on language, they are not examples for the us to follow, in fact anybody with anyone with sense should be horrified at the thought of the us being divided along language on top of the current political divisions, as i pointed out, canada almost self destructed over language divisions

Of course there are no nations with a history "similar to the US", conservatives use that in every discussion from gun control to health care to social democratic programs in order to excuse why stuff that works out in the rest of the world supposedly wouldn't' work here.

the history of the assimilation of european immigrants (aka immigramts losing their language to become americans) is such a basic part of american history its mind boggling that people are disputing it, there were large german speaking communities but speaking german obviously became taboo after WWII, how can you be this dense?

Well, I got three "basic parts of american history" that apparently only a dense person like me can catch.

First off, it was primarily WW1, not WW2, where the blatantly ridiculous prejudice against speaking German really shut down German speaking communities and killed German's status as America's #2 language.

Legal historian Paul Finkelman says in 1915 about 25 percent of all high school students in America studied German. But by the end of the World War I that had changed dramatically. German had become so stigmatized that only 1 percent of high schools even taught it.

"During the war, there is an argument that if you learn German, you will become the 'Hun,' " Finkelman says, using the pejorative term for anyone from Germany. "And there was this notion that language was somehow organic to your soul. So if you spoke German, you would think like a German, you would become a totalitarian in favor of the kaiser."

Second, German-speaking communities still exist to this day in America.


And third, the death of German speaking communities that came around the world wars occurred over TWO HUNDRED YEARS after the first German-speaking communities started. Meaning that it took numerous generations for the German's to "assimilate" like that. It took multiple generations for the Italians to assimilate. It took multiple generations for some Jewish communities to assimilate. It takes generations for any large immigrant population to assimilate.

the history of italains losing their original language and culture and becoming american is documented in the Godfather movies, of course there are pockets here and there, of course there are vestiges of european culture in america but overall non english euopean languages disappeared in the us and english became overwhelmingly dominant, the rise of spanish is a recent phenomena in american history

There have been tons of Spanish-speaking communities in America for centuries. It's just that each one tends to assimilate over a few generations. The recent rise is because there was an influx in immigrants from the 1980s to the early 2000s, they'll assimilate too. Just give them a few generations like everyone else gets. It's only the hyped up MAGA crew and their cousins who think that every community has to immediately assimilate the moment they land in the country or something's wrong with them.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

the history of italains losing their original language and culture and becoming american is documented in the Godfather movies

Wait. Are we allowed to use fictional stories to prove actual historical events? Is this proper debating and analytical tactics?