Tom Brokaw facing criticism for comments on Hispanics: "they need to assimilate better"

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First America has no national language.

And second, as the world become more closely integrated because of technology, yeah you work with people who work in different countries. Go across the border to work in Canada and you’ll find a whole section of the country speaking French. So if you want to be a black architect or interior designer getting more work by speaking with them in their language will help you.


You and Brokaw need to get out of the 1950s.

First of all America doesn't have an official language because it was never a necessity, historically immigrants came to America and learned English and the children lost their parents language, so there has never been a need for an official language...until now apparently

Second of all Canada almost self destructed because of language so Canada is an example of the dangers of having multiple official languages
 

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Being bi lingual or having the ability to speak multiple languages is a skill set fam!

What Brokaw says sounds like what a lot of Posters in here say. Y’all just don’t do the extreme walk back that Brokaw did.

Learning languages is a skill set just like welding or coding, there is nothing wrong with learning different skills

And there is nothing wrong with telling people to speak English when they immigrate to the us

You are trying to fight a battle that is not worth it
 

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When I first heard this I thought he was speaking for himself. I don't see anything wrong with what he said. This outrage culture is basura :hhh:


He actually did both. His opinion and theirs.


Also, he was being dishonest. Assimilate but don’t touch what’s mine.

This is the same “ separate but equal” policy white people have been running forever.
So pull up your pants and stop speaking Ebonics but also don’t live in my neighborhood or bang my daughter.


You don't have to be in favor of Latinos to be in favor of calling white people out on their BS.
 
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Then why are people getting upset at brokaw saying something that will and/or should happen, Hispanics should lose their language just Italians and other Europeans did, why exactly is there a problem with that?

  • The most basic reason for the :mjlol: moment is that Brokaw shown himself to be as :mjpls: as the people he's talking about.
  • If America wanted English to be the be-all, end-all then America would make English the official language and stop all the juelzing.
  • Assimilation is a double-edge sword for black people, especially AAs. I'll leave it at that.
  • If it will happen, hispanics assimilating, then why mention it at all, as if it's not?
  • Italians and other Europeans were actually trying to start a new life and get away from their home country. And they were white.

I get what you're saying. I even agree with some of it. But this was an old man having a Quincy Jones moment and making the most basic of mistakes. If Brokaw was 10 years younger, I don't think he would have said that out loud.
 

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He actually did both. His opinion and theirs.


Also, he was being dishonest. Assimilate but don’t touch what’s mine.

This is the same “ separate but equal” policy white people have been running forever.
So pull up your pants and stop speaking Ebonics but also don’t live in my neighborhood or bang my daughter.

The flaw in your logic is that the people you are defending also want you to stop speaking Ebonics, to pull up your pants, don't want you in their neighborhoods and don't want you banging their daughters

Relax yourself and let white supremacist from the British isles and the Iberian peninsula fight amongst themselves
 

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  • The most basic reason for the :mjlol: moment is that Brokaw shown himself to be as :mjpls: as the people he's talking about.
  • If America wanted English to be the be-all, end-all then America would make English the official language and stop all the juelzing.
  • Assimilation is a double-edge sword for black people, especially AAs. I'll leave it at that.
  • If it will happen, hispanics assimilating, then why mention it at all, as if it's not?
  • Italians and other Europeans were actually trying to start a new life and get away from their home country. And they were white.
I get what you're saying. I even agree with some of it. But this was an old man having a Quincy Jones moment and making the most basic of mistakes. If Brokaw was 10 years younger, I don't think he would have said that out loud.
I'm not disputing brokaw was being :mjpls:

I'm disputing the notion that I should be outraged about it and I'm disputing negroes tryna be all up in the mix
 

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First of all America doesn't have an official language because it was never a necessity, historically immigrants came to America and learned English and the children lost their parents language, so there has never been a need for an official language...until now apparently

Historically, immigrants lost all connections to their customs when they left their countries. International calls or even a home phone cost money immigrants didn't have. Letters took months.

In 21st Century America, you can download Sesame Street in Spanish and French for your babies.
In 21st century America, you can FaceTime/skype your 80 year old Romanian granny who doesn't speak English while sitting in a Starbucks and
ordering a grande Mocha latte in English.
Nothing about being bilingual stops a person from succeeding in a doctor, lawyer, or public servant in modern America.

Again, you're pushing some MAGA fantasy of rolling back technological progress that we've ASSIMILATED to.

That is assimilation in 21st century America. You want to tell people how to live their private lives so some white person doesn't hear Spanish in Wal-Mart or are we just going to keep it 100 and tell the party of "people should their rights as long as it doesn't interfere with me" to stop trying to pretend like this isn't disguised racism as pro-America.

Second of all Canada almost self destructed because of language so Canada is an example of the dangers of having multiple official languages

I don't know what almost self-destructed even means. America almost self-destructed over slavery. The UK almost self-destructed over the IRA. All of them made it thus far with their differences.
 

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The flaw in your logic is that the people you are defending also want you to stop speaking Ebonics, to pull up your pants, don't want you in their neighborhoods and don't want you banging their daughters

Relax yourself and let white supremacist from the British isles and the Iberian peninsula fight amongst themselves

Those POC can do/think whatever they want. Stay out of my way.

The flaw in your logic is that only one race, will actively pass laws and defund your schools to keep you in a ghetto.
 

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A lot of whites don’t realize the amount of Hispanics who do speak English, but prefer to speak Spanish in public, because they don’t want others to know what they are saying. The same thing goes for Asians.

They can talk shyt, and people don’t know what they’re saying. I’ve even met European immigrants who speak their native language to prevent others from knowing what they’re saying.
This is 100% true, and totally fine. I don’t think there’s anything racist or wrong with saying you should speak English if you live in the United States
 

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Uni lingual?!? Lmfao! Go ask someone in literally ANY country besides the United States and they speak at least two languages. Smgdh
Ppl being born and raised bilingual is one thing. But ppl being born and raised as unilingual and then half way through your life the rules change to require bilingualism is completely different.
 
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Border.Language.Culture is the foundation of a country
Assimilation compliments immigration

If you go to another country, you must abide by its culture. If not, don't go': Egypt's president decries migrants heading to Europe and refusing to integrate instead of fixing their own countries
Speaking at a World Youth Forum in Sharm-el-Sheikh, Egypt, the country's leader told guests they had to 'completely abide by the laws, customs, traditions and culture' of a country they moved to.

His comments came last month but have only now been reported by U.S.-based research institute MEMRI.

The Egyptian President told the audience that the West could not be expected to allow in people from countries who 'fight amongst ourselves'.

He said: 'Every country has the right to protect its people and their interests. It must generally respect human rights in a framework that preserves its national interests.

'Instead of asking me why countries [in the West] close their gates to us, you should ask yourself why the people of Afghanistan don't take better care of their own country.

'Why have they been killing one another for 40 years?
Egypt's president decries migrants heading to Europe and refusing to integrate | Daily Mail Online





Uni lingual?!? Lmfao! Go ask someone in literally ANY country besides the United States and they speak at least two languages. Smgdh
...while trying to goto/cater to countries that speak those languages they learned. Not stay in their own country using their own language to eat
 

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Ppl being born and raised bilingual is one thing. But ppl being born and raised as unilingual and then half way through your life the rules change to require bilingualism is completely different.
Where’s anyone say it’s requires? Lol
 
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thats fine too :yeshrug: people can speak whatever language they want to among themselves, out in public, anyone who cares about that shyt is a clown or a racist. im just talking about the aspects of interaction that involve talking to the public. as long as you can reasonably get by in english, i dont think that's some ridiculous demand or expectation

and for the record, there are far bigger problems facing america :dead:

This is 100% true, and totally fine. I don’t think there’s anything racist or wrong with saying you should speak English if you live in the United States

I'm just saying there is an assumption they don't speak english, and have no intention of learning, and that is not the case.
 
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I'm just saying there is an assumption they don't speak english, and have no intention of learning, and that is not the case.
that assumption is valid when the government caters to your foreign language and you live in a community that caters to your foreign language
That's human nature, what's pressing me to learn more, if I'm functional as is
 
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