Tommy Hilfiger started with $150... how do you fukk it up with $13 millay??????????????

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Kanye is a talented musician who thinks he dresses well, that doesn't make him a great designer! Kanye needs to sit down somewhere! There are people who eat, breathe and sleep clothes design like he did/does music and that's why they are where they are!

I love music and I think I know a thing or 2 doesn't mean I can run Interscope.
 

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Just because you are great at one thing doesn't make you great at everything.

Kanye West is to fashion what Michael Jordan was to baseball. Even the greatest basketball player of all time realized that maybe his true greatness was only in one area and not in baseball. Did you see Michael Jordan going on tirades because they wouldn't bring him up from Triple A fast enough?


Good analogy..

Also Steve Jobs, Disney and David Stern weren't artists and entertainers.. They were more singular in their vision...They didnt have to step away from their business ventures to go tour 50 cities or record albums.. Ye's ambition seems to be larger than theirs an honestly there just isn't enough hours in the day to be GREAT at everything.. He's eventually gonna have to make some decisions about whats most important to him and focus..I see him eventually walking away from hip hop or music all together.. His plan to be the next Ralf/Walt Disney won't work with him making classic albums..Atleast not without completly depending on ghost writers and ghost producers... It's just not logical...


*edit.. Disney was a writer and animator so he was technically an artist.. But not a performer...
 

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Good analogy..

Also Steve Jobs, Disney and David Stern weren't artists and entertainers.. They were more singular in their vision...They didnt have to step away from their business ventures to go tour 50 cities or record albums.. Ye's ambition seems to be larger than theirs an honestly there just isn't enough hours in the day to be GREAT at everything.. He's eventually gonna have to make some decisions about whats most important to him and focus..I see him eventually walking away from hip hop or music all together.. His plan to be the next Ralf/Walt Disney won't work with him making classic album.. It's just not logical...

That's the problem. Ego is too big to see that. Imagine Kanye's ego making Michael Jordan's look like a spec of dust :laugh: There is no way he fully walks away from music because that is truly what hes great at. Just like eventually Jordan put the 4-5 back on. Kanye may want to play designer but eventually when he doesn't get to the majors, he'll go back to what he is great in.
 

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sooooooo should I go to his concert on Friday? I ain't trying to hear him cry with a long ass speech
A girl I know went to his concert here in Philly a few weeks back. Said it was the worst concert she's ever attended. For one she didn't appreciate his whole "I am god" steez with angels around him, etc. But also that he'd go on 10 minute rants in between each song, saying shyt like, "when you tell people you're being yourself, you got that from me. Kanye taught y'all how to be yourselves" :what: :mindblown:

Dude is a serious narcissist and megalomaniac.
 

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No this is not really true, a lot of the big fashion guys have traditionally been divas... his diva antiques are not new, are expected, and in a way are kinda helping to support his image as a real designer...
Yeah but those Diva's have years of design experience and don't have the public platform to constantly bytch like Kanye does.
 

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fukk all that shyt you talkin bout........

What (I feel) Kanye should be doing is using his self proclaimed genius to make clothes that will appeal to nikkas that shop in places like USA Boutique, DTLR, etc. If he's as good as he says at designing he will be able to make clothes that these nikkas will cop consistently and build a solid cash base with which he can use to make that high end shyt he's obviously trying to make.

Wayne's trukfit has become a brand that nikkas is cool with wearing, T.I. Hustle Gang stuff is cool to rock, etc.

I cant say for sure, but id bet that them 2 nikkas (T.I. specifically) havent invested 13 mil into their ventures yet their clothing is more well branded and generating more money then whatever Kanye is producing.

This nikka said he spent 13 mil on his clothing line and i dont even know the name of his brand and have never seen anything he's made
 

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his problem is hes trying to go from 1-1000 in one shot. He wants to be aligned with the likes of Fendi, LV, and Versace and because he makes music he thinks he deserves a sub-brand with them:wtb:

Prove your stripes beyond some sneakers and a $200 white-T. Open a boutique or two in Italy, London or NYC. Develop a respectable line, develop an exclusivity following and maybe theyll hit you with the :patrice:

But he instead thinks lashing out at radio VJs like like unreared cattle is going to help..
Yea, he has to really think, how did you get to be kanye west? It wasnt by someone throwing millions of dollars at marketing you for no reason, friend. Alot of work went into making you who you are to be able to blast off, so in that regard the same would apply to fashion. Any art requires alot of dedication, more than 3 years, friend. Start boutiques, expand, sell to resllers, cake. Hes let his few accomplishments go to his head.

But then again, friend. Alot of famous brands have basically started out as Boutiques and then were merged into the conglomerate of the likes of Louis Vitton which is actually a merger of a few companies that include Moet and Hennessey. So i guess In Kanyes vision he wants one of those companies to finance his art so he doesnt have to pour his own money into his vision.

Here is a list of companies owned by Louis Vitton/ Moet Hennessey. The players have been established and Kanye doesnt have the connections to get the materials he needs at a cheap price because of his celebrity and because of the fact that black people do not own manufacturers to get hookups so in a lot of ways, he does have to beg his way into the fashion game.

Its so demonic, friends. :sitdown:

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fukk all that shyt you talkin bout........

What (I feel) Kanye should be doing is using his self proclaimed genius to make clothes that will appeal to nikkas that shop in places like USA Boutique, DTLR, etc. If he's as good as he says at designing he will be able to make clothes that these nikkas will cop consistently and build a solid cash base with which he can use to make that high end shyt he's obviously trying to make.

Wayne's trukfit has become a brand that nikkas is cool with wearing, T.I. Hustle Gang stuff is cool to rock, etc.

I cant say for sure, but id bet that them 2 nikkas (T.I. specifically) havent invested 13 mil into their ventures yet their clothing is more well branded and generating more money then whatever Kanye is producing.

This nikka said he spent 13 mil on his clothing line and i dont even know the name of his brand and have never seen anything he's made

nikka shut ya dumass up

Now i know u jus sayin sht to say sht

Aint nobody out hea rocking trukfit or some hustle gang is u serious

u can see a pile of trukfit shirts and sweaters at ur local marshalls..thats how bad its doing


nikka said Hustle gang :pachaha:

Kanye waants to be way bigger than that when it comes to clothing...
 

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nikka shut ya dumass up

Now i know u jus sayin sht to say sht

Aint nobody out hea rocking trukfit or some hustle gang is u serious

u can see a pile of trukfit shirts and sweaters at ur local marshalls..thats how bad its doing


nikka said Hustle gang :pachaha:

Kanye waants to be way bigger than that when it comes to clothing...
nikka please, i see nikkas coppin and rockin the shyt so wtf is you talkin about
 

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nikka shut ya dumass up

Now i know u jus sayin sht to say sht

Aint nobody out hea rocking trukfit or some hustle gang is u serious

u can see a pile of trukfit shirts and sweaters at ur local marshalls..thats how bad its doing


nikka said Hustle gang :pachaha:

Kanye waants to be way bigger than that when it comes to clothing...

I've seen trukfit at Macy's before. I honestly didn't know trukfit was his brand until I heard cthagod talking about some tweet he made about it on djvladtv. Looked like clothes for young kids, and I'm into my prime :flabbynsick: years
 
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