ElMorenoFeo809
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I don't know why VW is on the list, they makes good cars and they're very reliable. And new VWs interiors are super clean, it's on par with the entry level audis.
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Top 5 Car brands you should NEVER buy (Video)
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ElMorenoFeo809
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Chrishaune
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Why not post pics of YOUR actual truck? Everyone with a decent car(s) has a picture in their phone somewhere.
Literally the only difference between that truck and mine is off road suspension, a TRD Off-Road logo, darker tinted windows, and alloy wheels.
Cobalt Sire
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I had to learn the hard way to make cars last. Cars would break down the same day I bought it. Sometimes I would get a few a days out of a car before the engine died. Sometimes a few months before It gets stuck in auto repair hell. After going through hell and ruining my life, I developed a strategy for buying cars that has worked so far.
First off, It depends on your budget, but if you're buying something 15-20 years old, most american cars aren't going to work. Second, I make sure that the miles aren't too high, but it depends on the car and how desperate I am. I also don't buy from public auctions (did in the past with horrible luck) because those are the cars that didn't make the cut at dealer auctions, or dealers won't even look at them. A salvage car is horrible too, because when they are rebuilt, it is often with cheap parts. Title must be clean. I don't buy from car flippers, because I got scammed by too many of them. They'll sale you anything, and often at a higher price than it should be sold. This should be obvious, but don't buy from a junkyard. The car is there for a reason.
After I've decided I like a car, the next step is to check consumer reports on edmunds to see what kind of experiences people had with the car. If there are a lot of mixed reviews or worse, I look at a different car. Damn near every review needs to be positive, and I'm looking mostly for reliability. Don't care about speed, luxury, looks, sound systems, infotainment, none of that. Does the car turn on when I turn the key? That's all i'll ever care about til I die.
If the consumer reports are positive for reliability, the next step is a vehicle history report. On the report you want to look for whether the car has been salvaged or has a rebuilt title, if the odometer has been tampered with, how many accidents it's been in, whether it's having trouble passing smog, service records, how many times the car has changed hands (I prefer long ownership, and it speaks to the reliability.).
If that checks out, I prefer to get the car inspected by a mechanic before I buy it. If I can't do that, I have to work on faith, and faith will waste your money. The only time I work on faith is if the car is very cheap. I am not about to lose thousands of dollars because of some dishonest a$$hole.
I know most of you guys don't need to follow these steps, but I do, or my car breaks down in two days with a seized engine.
First off, It depends on your budget, but if you're buying something 15-20 years old, most american cars aren't going to work. Second, I make sure that the miles aren't too high, but it depends on the car and how desperate I am. I also don't buy from public auctions (did in the past with horrible luck) because those are the cars that didn't make the cut at dealer auctions, or dealers won't even look at them. A salvage car is horrible too, because when they are rebuilt, it is often with cheap parts. Title must be clean. I don't buy from car flippers, because I got scammed by too many of them. They'll sale you anything, and often at a higher price than it should be sold. This should be obvious, but don't buy from a junkyard. The car is there for a reason.
After I've decided I like a car, the next step is to check consumer reports on edmunds to see what kind of experiences people had with the car. If there are a lot of mixed reviews or worse, I look at a different car. Damn near every review needs to be positive, and I'm looking mostly for reliability. Don't care about speed, luxury, looks, sound systems, infotainment, none of that. Does the car turn on when I turn the key? That's all i'll ever care about til I die.
If the consumer reports are positive for reliability, the next step is a vehicle history report. On the report you want to look for whether the car has been salvaged or has a rebuilt title, if the odometer has been tampered with, how many accidents it's been in, whether it's having trouble passing smog, service records, how many times the car has changed hands (I prefer long ownership, and it speaks to the reliability.).
If that checks out, I prefer to get the car inspected by a mechanic before I buy it. If I can't do that, I have to work on faith, and faith will waste your money. The only time I work on faith is if the car is very cheap. I am not about to lose thousands of dollars because of some dishonest a$$hole.
I know most of you guys don't need to follow these steps, but I do, or my car breaks down in two days with a seized engine.
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Cobalt Sire
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A reliable first car is life changing. You're life will be so much better.
TrebleMan
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I will also say learning how to fix you own cars saves so much money in the long run. Seriously youtube is full of video tutorials and free.
We're talking several thousands of dollars saved each year on each car and thats money which could be put into something better.
If folks are confused as to where a lot of their money goes, the first thing they should really calculate is how much they're dumping on cars. Not just buying them (and paying interest into thin air), but overall maintenance, how much is spent on gas, etc.
Why I Would Never Spend Money on a New Car
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A coworker got a brand new Genesis
He pulled Into the parking lot at work and that shyt looked like the Batmobile. I was
That bytch rides nice. It’s a Great Value Benz. He got a full luxury whip for less
Don't let these fools tell you that you ain't a man if you don't buy some unreliable shyt. Some nikka laughed because another nikka driving a Camry, that man can get from point A to B far more times with far less issue and cost far less money to own and maintain.
BMW/Mercedes/Lexus/Honda never let me down throughout my life.Very impressed with what Lexus achieved in last 20 years in terms of quality of make. A modern Lexus can go toe to toe with any German vehicle so shouts to Toyota for that.
Now for the hall of shame:
Now for the hall of shame:
- Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep has to be the WOAT car company currently in existence.
If you wanna talk about unreliable engines, look no further. Cracked engines on 5 year old Chargers, complete transmission failure in a 2014 Wrangler, you name it. And it's a damn shame because they have some visually appealing cars in they line up. - On the topic of design, I ain't never seen a design falloff as drastic as Acura. From the bird beak grills to those ugly ass multi dot LED headlights.
Fire everyone. 
- Never owned a Hyundai but the quality on those interiors was hilarious. Talkin bout hearing random plastic console pieces moving/rattling around in brand new vehicles. I'll never forget the time one of my cousins picked me up in some 2015 Kia and the glove box door just randomly fell off mid trip.
- Nissan has to have the worst reputation for electrical issues in the game. Complete wiring harness removal and rewiring, sound issues, fuse issues, dash wiring. Even deep engine related shyt is an easier fix than some of the electrical shyt that comes up with these cars.
The hours spent just on diagnosing an electrical issue is something I wouldn't wish on any car owner or shop.
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KillerB88
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Okay. And we would love to see those differences. Only takes a couple minutes to upload a pic. You took the time to google a pic of a car that isn't even the same trim and posted that.
I know this..Saturns are reliable. That SL 1 I had kept running..I think I had the transmission rebuilt and they put in a new computer for the system...a solenoid. But other than that, the car kept running....super dark tints...seemed more than 35%
Cop go pull me over and ask if its "street legal".
Cop go pull me over and ask if its "street legal".
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Nissan ironed out a lot of the engine issues with the mid generation facelift. Those '05 - '07 aren't a bad deal, I just hate all that damn plastic in the interior.
Mr Hate Coffee
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@ being a grown man and driving a Toyota Camry
Them new Camry's are
Especially the ones with the sporty look.
GoAggieGo.
getting blitzed.
Just traded in my Chevy Silverado the other day. Bought it brand new, and I had to get some work done on the transmission a few months ago, and I started feeling it slip again.
Got me a Toyota now.
Got me a Toyota now.
Chrishaune
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submarine1
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Worked in a German auto shop for years.......
Lifelong toyota/lexus household family
Extended family is all GM lovers
German cars are notorious for electrical issues.
Its because they love putting sensors on everything - and if that sensor fails then you get fault codes and the check engine light comes on.
Does not mean its fatal or dangerous but there's only one check engine light and it comes on for ANY fault - minor or major.
Ask BMW owners about window switches or Audi owners about sensor and torque convertor failures and terrible wiring.
VW's and Audi's also love drinking/leaking/burning oil.
Japanese cars have that 1 in 500 lemon thing where 499 of them work fine but that 1 is possessed by the devil and should be burned immediately. My family got a 1985 camry brand new- we put 297k miles on that thing. My lil brother had a 96 camry which was the worst car ever did not last 3yrs. Japanese cars also sometimes get weak trannys put in and when it starts to slip - get out!
GM cars are the same for the underpowered tranny's and cheap plastic components. They also have a much higher lemon ratio - like 1 in 300 but they are also much easier/cheaper to fix. Sadly this is also why GM is not in any hurry to make their products better starting from the factory.
Worst part about this is globalization and shared platforms between car makers, the new supra is a cross-platform between BMW and Toyota, the old bentley was on the same platform as VW Phaeton(basically a luxury Passat) and Jaguar and Range/Land Rover owners can find all kinds of Ford stuff swimming around in their cars. In my humble opinion while this makes car making more cost-effective it also creates more problems. I could go on but in reality more car-makers are moving towards less reliable cars that are good for up to 50k miles but the expectation is that the consumer trade after 3-5 years and get a newer model. Look at old Benz models - they used to build them like tanks you still see 1970s and 80s models being driven around, the late 90s and early 2000s models - not so much.
Lifelong toyota/lexus household family
Extended family is all GM lovers
German cars are notorious for electrical issues.
Its because they love putting sensors on everything - and if that sensor fails then you get fault codes and the check engine light comes on.
Does not mean its fatal or dangerous but there's only one check engine light and it comes on for ANY fault - minor or major.
Ask BMW owners about window switches or Audi owners about sensor and torque convertor failures and terrible wiring.
VW's and Audi's also love drinking/leaking/burning oil.
Japanese cars have that 1 in 500 lemon thing where 499 of them work fine but that 1 is possessed by the devil and should be burned immediately. My family got a 1985 camry brand new- we put 297k miles on that thing. My lil brother had a 96 camry which was the worst car ever did not last 3yrs. Japanese cars also sometimes get weak trannys put in and when it starts to slip - get out!
GM cars are the same for the underpowered tranny's and cheap plastic components. They also have a much higher lemon ratio - like 1 in 300 but they are also much easier/cheaper to fix. Sadly this is also why GM is not in any hurry to make their products better starting from the factory.
Worst part about this is globalization and shared platforms between car makers, the new supra is a cross-platform between BMW and Toyota, the old bentley was on the same platform as VW Phaeton(basically a luxury Passat) and Jaguar and Range/Land Rover owners can find all kinds of Ford stuff swimming around in their cars. In my humble opinion while this makes car making more cost-effective it also creates more problems. I could go on but in reality more car-makers are moving towards less reliable cars that are good for up to 50k miles but the expectation is that the consumer trade after 3-5 years and get a newer model. Look at old Benz models - they used to build them like tanks you still see 1970s and 80s models being driven around, the late 90s and early 2000s models - not so much.