Trae Young (OU) vs #6 West Virginia game thread (ESPN 2)

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What about Schroder? They can’t play them together. Backcourt would be too small

Dennis my favorite player rn but him and Bud always going at it & he get benched in the 4th quarter sometimes.

You can’t be benching your best player and one of the leaders of the team. If they move on from dennis then I’d like to get Trae
 

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fukk he isn't. He doesn't have much fundamentals and he is not athletic. There is a massive gap between him compared to Steph as a Junior
He can shoot the shyt out the ball, is fast, and has a high ass IQ. Why are you comparing freshman Trae Young to junior Steph.
 

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He can shoot the shyt out the ball, is fast, and has a high ass IQ. Why are you comparing freshman Trae Young to junior Steph.
Because that's the level of mastery needed to be effective in the NBA without elite NBA athletic ability. He will struggle to translate to the next level. Steph mastered the SG position in college. That's why in the NBA, he is so effective when teams adjusted in his early years. Young hasn't mastered anything yet. League history tells you not to trust freshman entries who are PG's but league history tells us that they struggle the most due to fundamentals.
 

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fukk he isn't. He doesn't have much fundamentals and he is not athletic. There is a massive gap between him compared to Steph as a Junior

Really breh he doesn't have much fundamentals this is what's hot in 2018 now. He's the most skilled player in college basketball and his basketball IQ is off the charts. Do you not see his handles and next level passes? And this he's not athletic thing is a myth you saw him blowing by his defenders all game he has the quickness to beat people at the next level. His teammates are ass and West Virginia pressing and doubling him every possession did them in. He had to force things at the end cuz nobody else was finishing off his passes and he still got to 29 points. I'll give you one thing though he does need to improve on his off ball movement and use more screens on the sides when he's denied the ball. But this won't be an issue at the next level cuz nobody in the NBA presses all game and just ignores the other 4 guys on defense like west Virginia did today.
 

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:russ: at you Coli knee grow scouts trying to sound intelligent by regurgitating what announcers have said about Young. Stop it. The kid can play. Faced his toughest test to date and struggled some. He played like a freshman and let the moment get to him. Having said all that, he still dropped 29 on one of the best defensive teams in the nation. His biggest challenge will be getting through tough games like this in conference play.

On another note, I love Carter’s game. One of my favorite collegiate players today.
 

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Really breh he doesn't have much fundamentals this is what's hot in 2018 now. He's the most skilled player in college basketball and his basketball IQ is off the charts. Do you not see his handles and next level passes? And this he's not athletic thing is a myth you saw him blowing by his defenders all game he has the quickness to beat people at the next level. His teammates are ass and West Virginia pressing and doubling him every possession did them in. He had to force things at the end cuz nobody else was finishing off his passes and he still got to 29 points. I'll give you one thing though he does need to improve on his off ball movement and use more screens on the sides when he's denied the ball. But this won't be an issue at the next level cuz nobody in the NBA presses all game and just ignores the other 4 guys on defense like west Virginia did today.
Fundamentals is extremely hot in the NBA, especially for PG's more than any other position. 99.9% of freshmen PG's lack it. Lonzo and Kidd as freshman had the most I've seen from legit NBA prospects and we see Lonzo struggling right now looking like he doesn't have enough fundamentals even being more advanced then most. PG is a position that you must do two-three years in college to be effective if you are not a freak athlete. Most are freak athletes and those tend to heavily rely on their athletic ability. Any team who takes him runs the risk of drafting a bust. I think his range and usage is what's confusing you all but note, Steph was never an usage freak, he's more of a SG who can pass and has the fundamentals to play the PG position. Young doesn't have the fundamentals, can't play SG, and is too usage based which the NBA hasn't been since the intro of zone defense. Also, Lon Kruger systems tend to hide the weaknesses of his star players too much. I seen it with Hield as well.

The fact that he can't make his teammates better is just a testament to the type of player he really is. He's not Ball or Kidd. He's a high usage player who wins by dominating the game and having the team conform to his style of play. I am not seeing it with this kid. I've watched more of the games since he came into my attention. I am not feeling him whatsoever for the next level but for college, the most dynamic scorer since Jimmer and maybe the most dynamic freshman of all time.
 
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:russ: at you Coli knee grow scouts trying to sound intelligent by regurgitating what announcers have said about Young. Stop it. The kid can play. Faced his toughest test to date and struggled some. He played like a freshman and let the moment get to him. Having said all that, he still dropped 29 on one of the best defensive teams in the nation. His biggest challenge will be getting through tough games like this in conference play.

On another note, I love Carter’s game. One of my favorite collegiate players today.
No one is saying he can't play in college basketball. The NBA is a completely different story.
 

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The kid probably should stay another and see if his body grows a bit.
 
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