Travis Hunter’s Draft projection makes no sense

[Braman]

fukk all that fluffy try too hard football talk.

Trever Lawrence passes are complete ass.

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And that has what to do with what we both see in the video I posted?

fukking irrelevant. Question what we both see

1- slant, short gain
2- slant, short gain
3- bubble screen, short gain
4- bubble screen, short gain
5- roll out crosser, hit his hands but errant pass, incomplete
6- Deep post, Travis open, DB in zone read the qb, picked
7- WR screen, short gain
8- Travis open in the end zone, Lawrence hit while throwing, picked
9- Bubble screen, short gain
10- Hitch, short gain
11- Play action pass behind LOS, short gain
12- Hitch, dropped
13- Deep out, no separation, no strength at the catch point, DB knocks it up into a pick
14- Crosser, no separation, DB breaks it up
15- Quick out, Travis makes a man miss, 21 yard gain

So, why did you post this again?!? Lmao Y’all caught bulkshyttin in 4k

Out of 15 passes, 9 were complete. ALL his completions were short passes and he hit him in stride on every single one.

One pick was on the line. TWO were bad balls. THREE were on Travis

Y’all nggas are embarrassing

 

[NYC Rebel]

1- slant, short gain
2- slant, short gain
3- bubble screen, short gain
4- bubble screen, short gain
5- roll out crosser, hit his hands but errant pass, incomplete
6- Deep post, Travis open, DB in zone read the qb, picked
7- WR screen, short gain
8- Travis open in the end zone, Lawrence hit while throwing, picked
9- Bubble screen, short gain
10- Hitch, short gain
11- Play action pass behind LOS, short gain
12- Hitch, dropped
13- Deep out, no separation, no strength at the catch point, DB knocks it up into a pick
14- Crosser, no separation, DB breaks it up
15- Quick out, Travis makes a man miss, 21 yard gain

So, why did you post this again?!? Lmao Y’all caught bulkshyttin in 4k

Out of 15 passes, 9 were complete. ALL his completions were short passes and he hit him in stride on every single one.

One pick was on the line. TWO were bad balls. THREE were on Travis

Y’all nggas are embarrassing

Tell me where he’s falling short. You posted all that dumb shyt and the only criticism is some forced “no separation” on a ball thatwas thrown late by Lawrence…I’m trying to see where we see a player who looks lost or underperforming. You literally posted more of Lawrence & the o-lines shortcomings than his.

 

[Braman]

Tell me where he’s falling short. You posted all that dumb shyt and the only criticism is some forced “no separation” on a ball thatwas thrown late by Lawrence…I’m trying to see where we see a player who looks lost or underperforming. You literally posted more of Lawrence & the o-lines shortcomings than his.

‘Analyze what we see!’

Me: analyzes what we see

You: man stop all that dumb shyt

ROFL. Embarassing. Tf I look like explaining (again) where he’s failing to someone who puts “separation” in quotes. Ngga….that’s where he’s failing. What you want a telestrator demo? Don’t reply to me again

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

He looks like he has no idea what hes doing on offense, like in terms of the playcalls. I think because his time is split, they give him very limited offensive packages so he doesnt have to learn much, but it doesnt work because the routes are short, basic routes that are easy to anticipate, and his packages are tipping pass plays, they very rarely run out of them. So hes an offensive liability right now, for no reason other than he just doesn't know the playbook yet.

Defensively he's played decent but he's been targeted and exploited by TEs specifically, players that are bigger and stronger than him can bully him in 1 on 1 coverage, which is how he drew the PI to lose us the game against the bengals (it wasnt actually a PI but whatever). He's definitely ahead on that side of the ball, but his numbers wont show it yet.

He's also been a better tackler than his frame would suggest, so I expect improvement there.

Right now he's like a CB3 but a WR4 or 5. Ideally wed want him to be CB2 and WR2, but it's gonna take time for him to learn playbooks, NFL language, etc. And god help him if any coordinator gets fired cuz hes gonna have to learn that shyt again next year if it happens

I remember JSN complaining about Shane Waldron as OC. I see he's the passing game coordinator in Jax..

 

[NYC Rebel]

‘Analyze what we see!’

Me: analyzes what we see

You: man stop all that dumb shyt

ROFL. Embarassing. Tf I look like explaining (again) where he’s failing to someone who puts “separation” in quotes. Ngga….that’s where he’s failing. What you want a telestrator demo? Don’t reply to me again

But we saw when got separation on other plays, did we not?

Why pretend that you’re seeing a repeated problem when clearly he’s demonstrated that he has created space?

Pretending he’s Leggette on the Panthers is phony as hell.

 

[Braman]

But we saw when got separation on other plays, did we not?

Why pretend that you’re seeing a repeated problem when clearly he’s demonstrated that he has created space?

So you keep asking questions but then pretending you too good for the answer…

Running drag routes, slants, and hitches is not creating space. A lot of times the defense will even give you that. Then they’ll swarm you afterward hence his short ypc. (Which I flagged in the OP)

Where’s the boundary work? That’s where the money is made. You don’t see it bc he isn’t elite in any of the 3 major boxes: size, speed, route running.

We don’t know how fast he is but I’m guessing he’s not a 4.3 type guy otherwise they’d run him on go routes. Obviously playing both ways cost him as a route runner, lacks expertise. And he lacks size and physicality so you can’t trust him as a traditional X. So he’s stuck being a bubble screen merchant. None of this is rocket science

 

[Deafheaven]

So you keep asking questions but then pretending you too good for the answer…

Running drag routes, slants, and hitches is not creating space. A lot of times the defense will even give you that. Then they’ll swarm you afterward hence his short ypc. (Which I flagged in the OP)

Where’s the boundary work? That’s where the money is made. You don’t see it bc he isn’t elite in any of the 3 major boxes: size, speed, route running.

We don’t know how fast he is but I’m guessing he’s not a 4.3 type guy otherwise they’d run him on go routes. Obviously playing both ways cost him as a route runner, lacks expertise. And he lacks size and physicality so you can’t trust him as a traditional X. So he’s stuck being a bubble screen merchant. None of this is rocket science

think he a 4.4 dude, which is plenty fast tbh. so I would still use him to run go routes if possible

I don't think hes going to be an amazing WR though, just don't see it. And he would have to be very amazing for that pick to make sense.

Jax coulda just took the WR CAr took and they'd be better off

 

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[CarltonJunior]

think he a 4.4 dude, which is plenty fast tbh. so I would still use him to run go routes if possible

I don't think hes going to be an amazing WR though, just don't see it. And he would have to be very amazing for that pick to make sense.

Jax coulda just took the WR CAr took and they'd be better off

BTJ is our WR1 though we dont need hunter to be. The hope was that hed develop into a CB2 and WR2/3 at best. Paired with our TE thats looking like hes taking a leap thats a core

 

[Deafheaven]

BTJ is our WR1 though we dont need hunter to be. The hope was that hed develop into a CB2 and WR2/3 at best. Paired with our TE thats looking like hes taking a leap thats a core

Thats fools gold tho. A tru wr/cb 1 is worth more than a 2 players that are more 2s

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

think he a 4.4 dude, which is plenty fast tbh. so I would still use him to run go routes if possible

I don't think hes going to be an amazing WR though, just don't see it. And he would have to be very amazing for that pick to make sense.

Jax coulda just took the WR CAr took and they'd be better off

I always thought Travis lack of elite burst as a WR was because he was playing both sides of the ball. Its hard to really build that top gear when you have to pace yourself. I always thought he was more of CB, but we do gotta remember he didnt get elite strength and conditioning at Jackson St and Colorado.

I dont know what he'll be as a player, but we wont know what he really is as an athlete until he has a full NFL offseason.

 

[Dzali OG]

My jags feel like they have the luxury to bring him along slowly.

They didn't need him to be wr1. They didn't need him to be cb1. They drafted him feeling solidified at those positions.

They drafted him as they said for star power.

The kids going to be fine. You can see the star in him. Personally I felt he was too thin. But he may have the heart.

Sure on another team where he was expected to be the alpha he would have better stats. But the Jags paid two FAs to come be wr2 and cb2. TH is a luxury right now.

 

[NYC Rebel]

So you keep asking questions but then pretending you too good for the answer…

Running drag routes, slants, and hitches is not creating space. A lot of times the defense will even give you that. Then they’ll swarm you afterward hence his short ypc. (Which I flagged in the OP)

Where’s the boundary work? That’s where the money is made. You don’t see it bc he isn’t elite in any of the 3 major boxes: size, speed, route running.

We don’t know how fast he is but I’m guessing he’s not a 4.3 type guy otherwise they’d run him on go routes. Obviously playing both ways cost him as a route runner, lacks expertise. And he lacks size and physicality so you can’t trust him as a traditional X. So he’s stuck being a bubble screen merchant. None of this is rocket science

I have no clue what type of offense the Jags run, so to look for boundary work in week 3 of his career is pretty much ass. Im looking at what hes showing thus far and I dont see a player whose incapable of creating space in the litttle hes shown.

 

[Big Boss]

So you keep asking questions but then pretending you too good for the answer…

Running drag routes, slants, and hitches is not creating space. A lot of times the defense will even give you that. Then they’ll swarm you afterward hence his short ypc. (Which I flagged in the OP)

Where’s the boundary work? That’s where the money is made. You don’t see it bc he isn’t elite in any of the 3 major boxes: size, speed, route running.

We don’t know how fast he is but I’m guessing he’s not a 4.3 type guy otherwise they’d run him on go routes. Obviously playing both ways cost him as a route runner, lacks expertise. And he lacks size and physicality so you can’t trust him as a traditional X. So he’s stuck being a bubble screen merchant. None of this is rocket science

 

[Braman]

I have no clue what type of offense the Jags run

I do. They are running the same offense Tampa ran last year. He is supposed to be their Chris Godwin. The problem is, he isn’t a proficient route runner and doesn’t understand the nuances of WR as a whole, let alone the added nuances of a slot WR. Egbuka does. Same offense

so to look for boundary work in week 3 of his career is pretty much ass.

Yea let’s call a spade a spade you don’t know ball. Mans said asking a WR to win 1 on 1 on the outside is “ass”.