Envy says a lot of c00n and dumbass shyt. dikk Gregory checked him on that last time and told Envy that he's the puppet/sidekick of the show. You should have seen Envy's face after that lol.
Trevor Noah - The Breakfast Club
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Envy says a lot of c00n and dumbass shyt. dikk Gregory checked him on that last time and told Envy that he's the puppet/sidekick of the show. You should have seen Envy's face after that lol.
Seriously. The amount of "nope" in this thread is hilarious.
:kobedunno:Trevor was fukking on point
This was brilliant from Trevor Noah. He isn't perfect (which he states several times) but he acknowledges his imperfections, and is constantly looking to improve his outlook on political and racial affairs. I cannot ask for anything more from a man.
TheDarceKnight
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I think it's all about a cost/benefit analysis about how many people can be helped and educated by seeing their (Tomi Lahren, etc.) bad points rebutted, versus the danger of their (stupid) message reaching more people.
I tend to like where Noah and Charlamagne are coming from here. Our country is in a crazy spot right now. I tend to think the people that hold Tomi Lahren's viewpoints hold them. I don't think she's swaying a ton of people, and I don't think she has lots of people like
"She actually makes some good points". I think her listeners already think what she thinks, and I think there is a greater possibility of good, when I think about how many people that might be on the fence, right? So as an example---let's take someone that doesn't understand BLM, but they're open minded and willing to learn. We need as many people on the good side of this fight as possible. I would rather that person be exposed to Tomi Lahren AND Trevor Noah or Charlemagne, and not just Tomi Lahren by themselves. Does that make sense?
I guess I'm sort of always for bad logic being exposed for what it is. She does have a nasty message, and I totally get why some people think it would be smarter to just not even give her any more exposure. People have awful media literacy these days. Look at how many people believe that Pizzagate bullshyt. If someone is going to be exposed to Tomi Lahren I would rather there be some checks and balances in place, so they aren't being exposed to her without a counterpoint.
It's definitely an interesting debate. Right now that's sort of where I stand, but I'm open to being swayed.
I tend to like where Noah and Charlamagne are coming from here. Our country is in a crazy spot right now. I tend to think the people that hold Tomi Lahren's viewpoints hold them. I don't think she's swaying a ton of people, and I don't think she has lots of people like
"She actually makes some good points". I think her listeners already think what she thinks, and I think there is a greater possibility of good, when I think about how many people that might be on the fence, right? So as an example---let's take someone that doesn't understand BLM, but they're open minded and willing to learn. We need as many people on the good side of this fight as possible. I would rather that person be exposed to Tomi Lahren AND Trevor Noah or Charlemagne, and not just Tomi Lahren by themselves. Does that make sense?I guess I'm sort of always for bad logic being exposed for what it is. She does have a nasty message, and I totally get why some people think it would be smarter to just not even give her any more exposure. People have awful media literacy these days. Look at how many people believe that Pizzagate bullshyt. If someone is going to be exposed to Tomi Lahren I would rather there be some checks and balances in place, so they aren't being exposed to her without a counterpoint.
It's definitely an interesting debate. Right now that's sort of where I stand, but I'm open to being swayed.
I don't know how anyone can walk away from listening to him in that interview and have the conclusion that he doesn't care about black people or finding ACTIONABLE ways to dismantle with white supremacy. I think a lot of the people on this board are just upset that he doesn't reflect their own personal brand of militancy, so they're being unfairly dismissive in what he's trying to communicate. I've never been on board with black people finding ONE way to deal with things. We should all work towards progress by crowdsourcing different strategies and sharing that information. The video game analogy he made really speaks on this.
yall peep what this nikka said on his show at the end..... 
even if its sarcasm... that kinda slick shyt aint cool....
Trevor Noah Takes on Tomi Lahren: I ‘Don’t Believe’ You Don’t See Color
He then imagined the two of them joining forces before saying, “We’re from two different worlds. It just wouldn’t work. I’m from Africa, you’re from heaven. But hey, we’ll always have Facebook.”
even if its sarcasm... that kinda slick shyt aint cool....
Trevor Noah Takes on Tomi Lahren: I ‘Don’t Believe’ You Don’t See Color
He then imagined the two of them joining forces before saying, “We’re from two different worlds. It just wouldn’t work. I’m from Africa, you’re from heaven. But hey, we’ll always have Facebook.”
Absolutely. Not only on this board, but in twitter and other corners of social media. And hence you get echo chambers where one narrative is being peddled, until reality comes knocking.
I couldn't agree more with his questioning as to where racists go once they are banished from our safe spaces. Well, those racists went and voted for Trump.
I think Trevor was raised by his grandmother, he wouldn't be able to speak Xhosa, Zulu and other African languages if he was in a typical white South African environment. I don't think he is as incisive on race because he had such a mixed upbringing from Soweto to living with his Swiss father. The view of racism as some disease or ignorance deliberately ignores that it is as much a value system and culture for some people. They identify with it and are fully conscious of what they are doing. The only difference is that political correctness has driven overt racism onto internet sites that guarantee anonymity (Reddit where the largest subreddit was called c00ntown and *****) and led to codifying of language by racists. They stubbornly hold on to their views because being open to ideas or changing their minds is not something they are prepared to do because it challenges their worldview. Tomi Lahren uploads videos responding to Jesse Williams talking about how many white people died to free slaves when it was white people who decided to utilize the institution of slavery in the US in the first place. She wont talk about how even after slavery there was Jim Crow and that Asian and African countries were getting independence while African Americans were lacking basic rights. There is a reason it took wars and all out mass political mobilization to ensure even a semblance of equal rights and even then hearts were not changed, they were just forced by more powerful entities to institute changes. Trevor is South African, surely he knows how many white South Africans have reinterpreted Apartheid to be about just "separate development" instead of a calculated attempt to keep blacks in subservient positions. They were more honest about their racism going in than they were after suffering defeats.
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UltimateSource
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Ya know , y'all are quick to let motherfukker from another country respresent and speak for you as an AA.. If it ain't Barack Obama, it's Drake, now Trevor Noah. I honestly believe are too disconnected from the struggle to speak intelligently on AA Issues. Not saying they don't make good points, or their opinions shouldnt be respected...but they arent spearheading anything solely for black people here in America
Can't speak for Obama or Drake (has he ever spoke on anything substantial??), but Noah said in the interview he doesn't have all the answers. He is one man, who has an incomplete yet unique perspective on racial issues. Flipping the question, who is worthy of spearheading anything solely for black people here in America?
Rell84shots
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The Juelz Santana gif has never been more needed than right now, Tomi has both of these men doing mental gymnastics to justify hanging with her
UltimateSource
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He wants to know where racists go...they go to where racism flourishes and is appreciated. st0rmfr0nt Breightbart shyt like that and just become more covert with their racism. It's not like they are forced to wear a Scarlett letter on some inglorious b*stards shyt immediatly identifying them as racists. That chic who made the AIDS joke on a plane a few years ago and got fired, you think she hasn't found another job where nobody even knows who she is? Being a racist isnt coming up on anyones background check Trevor.
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Ol boy literally cupcakin
But I'm truly lost at how people are surprised they went out after the interview. Ya'll do realize this is all for show, right? Don't even have to bring color into it, ya'll do know these liberals and conservative share the same goal of pushing their brand/image with these talks, right? You're aware that either party's respective audience isn't going to change their views, correct?
Well, you know now.
Sadly folks don't understand this. I even mentioned this when the brotha tariq started to appear on the HLN show with Dr. Drew and how / why the brotha tariq was on the show.
Same as when Fox news has certain black guest on their shows whose views are the opposite of fox news.
The folks on the shows are paid to come on there and it is a opportunity for the host to get ratings and the guest to push their shyt.
The internet / forum folks love to talk about conspiracies and how shyt is fixed. But jokers refuse to acknowledge over and over that TV shows and sports are nothing more than bread and circus.
UltimateSource
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It would have to be an AA. Same way the "founding fathers" put the clause you had to be born in America to the President, they understood you cant be beholden or capable of being influenced by outside interests. We just don't do things, see things or interpret things the same. If you didn't grow up in America AND you have white parents.., you on that Sage Steel shyt and you just wanna wait and hold out for the greater good in white people (because you believe in them/you are one of them)....but which isn't going to come to the average black person like it comes to you because you are their family.
I believe all AA serious about making strides as a people should be indoctrinated with as many different ideologies as possible (Amos Wilson, Khalid Muhammad, Louis Farakhan...just to name a few) and they can all become strong leaders in their own right. But they have to be committed to the cause and privy to the right information.
