Trinidad James Broke and Dropped From Def Jam

[Vonte3000]

Out of all of this i only consider Mac Miller the true youtube success..and i guess Soulja Boy but that was mostly myspace

Gambino does tv and comedy so his chances are significantly increased to succeed in music

Lil B doesn't exist outside of internet

Kid Ink is just now getting his footing, with that Chris Brown joint..

Come on bruh Rocky had a full LP release, Chance is doing big things, he's doing Lollapalooza alongside Outkast for god's sake he's already been to Europe to and he's independent

Tinashe got signed off Youtube and has a hit single out fam

Odd Future is doing straight too

Gambino's chance's were actually hindered due to his tv shyt I would think. Who took him seriously when he said he wanted to rap?

 

[Darealtwo1]

So are you speaking on a joint venture or 360 deal?


Are these specific deal points you read in a interview or he mentioned these percentages himself?

Just saying..never heard of Trinidad James signing a 360 deal.

Regardless of sales, Trinidad CAN survive off shows and a indie hustle....well he could have...

360 deal is what I explained....a joint venture is a true 50/50 split...if 6 bucks is made then the label gets 3 and u get 3.

Trinidad James def signed a 360 deal..its the only thing def jam is offering now. No label is taking a chance on an artist not selling. Not everyone is going to be J cole and sell 200k out da gate and go gold in 9 weeks.

Trinidad James cant survive off shows cuz he has no record out(ask ace hood what happens when there is no record out). Trinidad James couldnt tour by himself, He was always a supporting/opening act for a bigger artist. The only thing James could do is club apperances but that isnt going to pay much.

 

[jwinfield]

Come on bruh Rocky had a full LP release, Chance is doing big things, he's doing Lollapalooza alongside Outkast for god's sake he's already been to Europe to and he's independent

Tinashe got signed off Youtube and has a hit single out fam

Odd Future is doing straight too

Gambino's chance's were actually hindered due to his tv shyt I would think. Who took him seriously when he said he wanted to rap?

Yeah.

OF has the music, merch and a tv show that's had 3 seasons.

Gambino sold 296k with no major promotion

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Hope he ran through every penny of that budget and enjoyed it...wonder how long Keef has?

 

[FeloniousMonk]

360 deal is what I explained....a joint venture is a true 50/50 split...if 6 bucks is made then the label gets 3 and u get 3.

Trinidad James def signed a 360 deal..its the only thing def jam is offering now. No label is taking a chance on an artist not selling. Not everyone is going to be J cole and sell 200k out da gate and go gold in 9 weeks.

Trinidad James cant survive off shows cuz he has no record out(ask ace hood what happens when there is no record out). Trinidad James couldnt tour by himself, He was always a supporting/opening act for a bigger artist. The only thing James could do is club apperances but that isnt going to pay much.

OP said he heard it was a joint venture, you saying it was a 360, Im just asking for info on TJ's deal..If you say ALL Def Jam is offering are 360 deals, cool.

2 mill is ALOT to offer a nobody artist..dont you think...we didn't even hear ASAP/KENDRIC/DRAKE deals points..but we ALL know TJ signed for 2 mill.

Def Jam was creating major hype for the exact reason you mentioned...Niccas buzz was undeniable!

TJ could have created a chitlin circuit for himself, but was happy what Def Jam was doing for him..


Far as Ace Hood, Khaled gonna make sure he eats...'waking up in a new bugatti' perhaps..

 

[Darealtwo1]

OP said he heard it was a joint venture, you saying it was a 360, Im just asking for info on TJ's deal..If you say ALL Def Jam is offering are 360 deals, cool.

2 mill is ALOT to offer a nobody artist..dont you think...we didn't even hear ASAP/KENDRIC/DRAKE deals points..but we ALL know TJ signed for 2 mill.

Def Jam was creating major hype for the exact reason you mentioned...Niccas buzz was undeniable!

TJ could have created a chitlin circuit for himself, but was happy what Def Jam was doing for him..


Far as Ace Hood, Khaled gonna make sure he eats...'waking up in a new bugatti' perhaps..

I dont know or Care if it was a Joint Venture Or 360 cuz its not happening...2mill is not a lot if you dont spend it any of it. Def Jam isnt spending the money on the album so the 2mill deal is nothing,.

Yes he had a buzz but it was real people knew this was just a song for the season. Just like sage the gemini, dont nobody wanna hear no 14 tracks from dat dude.

No khaled wont..ace hood begged khaled for money when he was broke and khaled told him no u need a hit record, and ace hood did multiple mixtapes and grinded and he came with hustle hard.

 

[Harry B]

You dont get 2 million..he prob got a 60-80k advance off that. That 2million is to pay for features, beats, studio time, and radio spins for the album. In return they take all ya sales and take 15% of ya tour money, 15% of ya merch, 100% of ya album sales and so on and so on hence where they got the term 360 deal from

it dont matter to def jam they recouped that 80k advance just off the all gold everything single. That went gold (no pun intended) thats around 350k after itunes takes their cut(no samples on that record either) all the show money, dont be safe ep sales, and merch money they got was just a bonus

you can't generalize contracts like that.
For all we know he might've or a 1 million solar advance and the other million was the album budget.

 

[So UnThotful]

man look at the reception back in 2012

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

 

[BronxFleeZ]

It was gonna happen but it kinda sucks. Hope he finds a new hustle Rap isn't for anyone. Especially if you don't have longevity

 

[RAX 010]

 

[Theodoresolderbreh]

i enjoyed his album for some strange reason cept for all gold everything.... his verse cool on that shyt cool in the whip i cant even explain why i like that song but overall i was surprised how decent his cd was.. i was completely ready to shyt all over it.. but 10 pc mild was dog shyt and i think he either got lucky on the first cd or had a ghostwriter..

 

[mobbinfms]

 

[Cat piss martini]

all repo'd everything.

 

[Prince Akeem]

why are you guys so excited to see another black mans downfalls

http://bossip.com/779493/all-strugg...-drugs-and-sex-because-smart-rap-doesnt-sell/

Man fukk that nikka.