Triple H is a piece of sh*t.

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It all started with Punk IMO. From there it's been all downhill. Pretty much every guy he has interacted while they were on the cusp of being the guy in the company got derailed because of his insistence on getting in the picture.
You can go back even further to 2006, because he had no business getting involved in the Edge & Cena feud.
 

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i dunno about mainstream attention but after rock and stonecold fully left triple h was the top guy plus he was part of the triforce with rock and stone cold and undertaker was the bigboss

It's always funny to hear people say this in regards to HHH. It has been repeated so much that people automatically bank on it like it's gospel. But when you really think about it in terms of the timeline, it's bullshyt.

It's indisputable that Austin and Rock both dominated (switching between 1A and 1B) the entire time they were full time. Austin retired in 03 and Rock left for good (for that time period) in 04. During the HHH's reign of terror in that time frame, he was responsible for headlining some of the shyttiest Raws in history and stunk it up with just about everybody he faced. The only good outcome in all that shyt is the build of Batista. To make matters worse, he wouldn't even mix it up with the top Smackdown guys (including a prime Lesnar and Angle).

As a result they had to build a real top guy that could actually carry the company (as we all know which fell to Cena in 05). So all in all you have maybe a 8-10 month gap where you could even try to call him the top guy and that has hella asterisks by it cause it was trash (universally shyt on), he buried better talent and he didn't work with the top (superior) talent that were outshining him on the blue side.

The better question is if HHH was as great and as dominant as you say, why didn't he naturally fall into the role of the top guy once Austin and Rock left? He wasn't old (and is still in good shape physically in 2017), had decent name recognition and experience working with the true greats, and was stroking the boss's daughter nightly.
 
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It's always funny to hear people say this in regards to HHH. It has been repeated so much that people automatically bank on it like it's gospel. But when you really think about it in terms of the timeline, it's bullshyt.

It's indisputable that Austin and Rock both dominated (switching between 1A and 1B) the entire time they were full time. Austin retired in 03 and Rock left for good (for that time period) in 04. During the HHH's reign of terror in that time frame, he was responsible for headlining some of the shyttiest Raws in history and stunk it up with just about everybody he faced. The only good outcome in all that shyt is the build of Batista. To make matters worse, he wouldn't even mix it up with the top Smackdown guys (including a prime Lesnar and Angle).

As a result they had to build a real top guy that could actually carry the company (as we all know which fell to Cena in 05). So all in all you have maybe a 8-10 month gap where you could even try to call him the top guy and that has hella asterisks by it cause it was trash (universally shyt on), he buried better talent and he didn't work with the top (superior) talent that were outshining him on the blue side.

The better question is if HHH was as great and as dominant as you say, why didn't he naturally fall into the role of the top guy once Austin and Rock left? He wasn't old (and is still in good shape physically in 2017), had decent name recognition and experience working with the true greats, and was stroking the boss's daughter nightly.

i see what you're saying, but dont forget triples main role was always a bad azz heel
and he did certify his position as a top guy when he returned from his one or two injuries he would always get a huge pop, just like the rock
personally id say when triple started using the all about the game theme thats when he became a top guy
 

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i see what you're saying, but dont forget triples main role was always a bad azz heel
and he did certify his position as a top guy when he returned from his one or two injuries he would always get a huge pop, just like the rock
personally id say when triple started using the all about the game theme thats when he became a top guy

Zack Ryder got huge pops too :mjgrin:. That means nothing. :heh:

And I didn't ask about being a top guy but the top guy.
 

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Zack Ryder got huge pops too :mjgrin:. That means nothing. :heh:

And I didn't ask about being a top guy but the top guy.

can a heel truly be "the top guy" ?

youre always going to have that baby face that gets over just because

hhh basically been a heel from day 1
 

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can a heel truly be "the top guy" ?

youre always going to have that baby face that gets over just because

hhh basically been a heel from day 1
Hogan was as nwo leader before Sting and Goldberg..Austin was on top of Raw until Rock came back in July 01...Hollywood Rock took over Monday Raw in 03..pushed Austin and World Champion Cripple H behind him.
 
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