TROY AVE. let's talk about the breh.

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DUDE IS JUST :patrice:IMO....BEEN TIRED OF SAME OLE COKE RAP....BUT I LIKE HIS CHARISMA THO :skip:
 

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All of that schitzophrenic tying, you aint really said shyt.

This isnt Freestyle Fridays who cares, or even checks for battling, its about the music.
Its about the music and Troy ave is buzzing harder than any of these other new nikkas.
You talking PR and distribution as if that isnt corporate logistics. Since when has ANY unsigned artist done that?:what: Artists grow organically by flooding the streets with music, doing interviews and features, and on top hes financing videos for his songs catering to the modern social media era. What more do you want from him?

As for calling kendrick a weirdo. He did what alot of street rap purists do, they drop a line on whats trending who isnt in line with the streets. Just like other rappers have called nikkas out on that autotune, have called nikkas out on that signing on tracks, that snap music, and all that heavy drug usage rap.

Final point, bottom line, kendrick is a 'weirdo', hes part of a new age artsy/hipster subgenre of rap. Troy ave brought attention to the fact that that type of music is not the backbone of rap music.



I dont know why calling a spade a spade got you all you hipster fans panties all skidmarked:sitdown:

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nikka how the fukk is Kendrick weird? by that Logic Nas is weird... by that Logic Ghostface is weird... cause them nikkas all intellectual street rap acts with diverse content. This nikka Ave got a :flabbynsick: in 2014 ... that shyt weird to. How the fukk is Kendrick weird, what is weird about him he talks about being a black male in america from a regular guys perspective. How the fukk is that weird im just baffled by your logic. This nikka even has song called "AVERAGE JOE"!!! I dont even listen to the nikka like that, but how is he a "Weirdo" please explain this to me... :mindblown:

Truth is this... I fukk with Troy Ave's music... and in the streets nikkas know him, but I will say that, nobody really listens to him like that. His hype is blown way out of proportion there is no Max B shyt going on (No hate, I WANT this nikka to blow cuz the tri state NEEDS him). But my young wild nikkas listen to Meek Mill and Cheif Keef, Ross, 2Chainz, shyt like that. They not listening to no Troy Ave. They know him, they respect him, but they aint saying thats they favorite rapper or quoting his lyrics on facebook and shyt. Truthfully rapping is kinda corny in the streets to these young nikkas... it's a whatever type thing now. With that being said he's on the radio etc. I know I get it... but answer this question for me... What separates this nikka from Red Cafe???

Name me one thing that's different about them? Huge cosigns, on Hot 97 all day, Got money, In the club, poppin shyt about they lifestyle etc. but them nikkas dont be compelling enough, or "weird" enough to actually make it over the hump. The shyt he's doing has been done before. :what:

Ima tell you what this nikka is doing and keep in mind im not a hater, and I fukk with his music... but its obvious... Troy Ave is playing on nikkas ignorance for nostalgia and using it to propel himself as the savior of street rap. It's a certain sect of nikkas who aint really net savvy or disregard everything new as "WEIRDO, TIGHT PANTS RAP etc." when really its just the culture moving forward. These the type of nikkas that still listen to 50 and was young during the G-Unit days and shyt. He just put himself in position to represent for those nikkas... He plays that up by disregarding all his competition as "WEIRD" and all that shyt but trust me that nikka dont really feel that way. He is extremely intelligent. He just hustling and im not knocking his hustle. But miss me with the dumb shyt. :comeon:

My only point is the only type of street music aint gangsta rap u ignorant muthafukka. To be street does not = being a gangster... Tribe was street rap, Outkast is street rap, ASAP is street rap and them nikkas moist as shyt. They black nikkas from the street speaking they perspective that in itself is street rap, THAT IS THE ROOT OF fukkING HIP HOP nikka... not Coke Fairy Tales and going super hard to prove you real.

I like his songs tho. He's catchy he can rhyme and he works hard. But I cant get with the manipulation b. His whole campaign is some reverse hate shyt. its stupid. And mark my words its gonna come back and bite him in his ass.
 
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nikka how the fukk is Kendrick weird? by that Logic Nas is weird... by that Logic Ghostface is weird... cause them nikkas all intellectual street rap acts with diverse content. This nikka Ave got a :flabbynsick: in 2014 ... that shyt weird to. How the fukk is Kendrick weird, what is weird about him he talks about being a black male in america from a regular guys perspective. How the fukk is that weird im just baffled by your logic. This nikka even has song called "AVERAGE JOE"!!! I dont even listen to the nikka like that, but how is he a "Weirdo" please explain this to me... :mindblown:

Truth is this... I fukk with Troy Ave's music... and in the streets nikkas know him, but I will say that, nobody really listens to him like that. His hype is blown way out of proportion there is no Max B shyt going on (No hate, I WANT this nikka to blow cuz the tri state NEEDS him). But my young wild nikkas listen to Meek Mill and Cheif Keef, Ross, 2Chainz, shyt like that. They not listening to no Troy Ave. They know him, they respect him, but they aint saying thats they favorite rapper or quoting his lyrics on facebook and shyt. Truthfully rapping is kinda corny in the streets to these young nikkas... it's a whatever type thing now. With that being said he's on the radio etc. I know I get it... but answer this question for me... What separates this nikka from Red Cafe???

Name me one thing that's different about them? Huge cosigns, on Hot 97 all day, Got money, In the club, poppin shyt about they lifestyle etc. but them nikkas dont be compelling enough, or "weird" enough to actually make it over the hump. The shyt he's doing has been done before. :what:

Ima tell you what this nikka is doing and keep in mind im not a hater, and I fukk with his music... but its obvious... Troy Ave is playing on nikkas ignorance for nostalgia and using it to propel himself as the savior of street rap. It's a certain sect of nikkas who aint really net savvy or disregard everything new as "WEIRDO, TIGHT PANTS RAP etc." when really its just the culture moving forward. These the type of nikkas that still listen to 50 and was young during the G-Unit days and shyt. He just put himself in position to represent for those nikkas... He plays that up by disregarding all his competition as "WEIRD" and all that shyt but trust me that nikka dont really feel that way. He is extremely intelligent. He just hustling and im not knocking his hustle. But miss me with the dumb shyt. :comeon:

My only point is the only type of street music aint gangsta rap u ignorant muthafukka. To be street does not = being a gangster... Tribe was street rap, Outkast is street rap, ASAP is street rap and them nikkas moist as shyt. They black nikkas from the street speaking they perspective that in itself is street rap, THAT IS THE ROOT OF fukkING HIP HOP nikka... not Coke Fairy Tales and going super hard to prove you real.

I like his songs tho. He's catchy he can rhyme and he works hard. But I cant get with the manipulation b. His whole campaign is some reverse hate shyt. its stupid. Just :eat: off your own merit.

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Yeah i figured u wasnt gon read it, but i know you reading this right now... so with being said... fukk you nikka...

:pachaha:

:mjpls:But I did read you say you like the nikka music so lets :dj2:

Its not really as serious as these lamar fans making it. Enjoy the music
 

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You clearly dont know what youre talking about.

Troy is in interviews clearly saying it wasnt a diss, hes not dissing Kemdrick hes just saying Kendrick makes that 'weirdo' music. Just like Flatbush Zombies are weirdos. He clearly said hes not looking for beef, cause beef is corny, hes just calling it was it is.

and then I watch your skitzo argument turn into whos really about that life:mjlol:

WHO THE **** CARES nikka.

Are you looking for a role model? Rick Ross dont transport bricks but I bet he makes better music than a 5-star Blood gang general, word to @Mazerati Fox.

when i say about that life,..i was talking from a cultural perspective.
.
as it pertains to rick ross battling the discrepancies that troy ave has said publically when it comes to battling.

yet, since you so hung up on how many packs, troy ave serves.
like, you got your teeth rotted out personally from smoke'n c, you cluck...
you are focusing in on circumstantial bullshyt.
instead of if he is a culture thief.
you have it misconstrued.

next,..anytime you say anything negative about a rapper in pr.
that is a diss and the start of a battle.
a battle is not beef,..
he is deflecting it onto that.
like he is some tough drug lord.
yet, he is a soft cluck faced't bodied wack sucker rapper, and culture thief.
trying to revenue grab and get light without adhere'n to the culture.
when, you pr negative comments about said rapper.

so, kill all that he is just saying...
he is trying to punk rappers who may not openly illustrate their street life connections in their music.
like it makes them lesser than him.
when, culturally he is not about what the culture is about.
plus, says so in interview.

duke is a culture thief, and a ho ass sneak disser...

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nikka how the fukk is Kendrick weird? by that Logic Nas is weird... by that Logic Ghostface is weird... cause them nikkas all intellectual street rap acts with diverse content. This nikka Ave got a :flabbynsick: in 2014 ... that shyt weird to. How the fukk is Kendrick weird, what is weird about him he talks about being a black male in america from a regular guys perspective. How the fukk is that weird im just baffled by your logic. This nikka even has song called "AVERAGE JOE"!!! I dont even listen to the nikka like that, but how is he a "Weirdo" please explain this to me... :mindblown:

Truth is this... I fukk with Troy Ave's music... and in the streets nikkas know him, but I will say that, nobody really listens to him like that. His hype is blown way out of proportion there is no Max B shyt going on (No hate, I WANT this nikka to blow cuz the tri state NEEDS him). But my young wild nikkas listen to Meek Mill and Cheif Keef, Ross, 2Chainz, shyt like that. They not listening to no Troy Ave. They know him, they respect him, but they aint saying thats they favorite rapper or quoting his lyrics on facebook and shyt. Truthfully rapping is kinda corny in the streets to these young nikkas... it's a whatever type thing now. With that being said he's on the radio etc. I know I get it... but answer this question for me... What separates this nikka from Red Cafe???

Name me one thing that's different about them? Huge cosigns, on Hot 97 all day, Got money, In the club, poppin shyt about they lifestyle etc. but them nikkas dont be compelling enough, or "weird" enough to actually make it over the hump. The shyt he's doing has been done before. :what:

Ima tell you what this nikka is doing and keep in mind im not a hater, and I fukk with his music... but its obvious... Troy Ave is playing on nikkas ignorance for nostalgia and using it to propel himself as the savior of street rap. It's a certain sect of nikkas who aint really net savvy or disregard everything new as "WEIRDO, TIGHT PANTS RAP etc." when really its just the culture moving forward. These the type of nikkas that still listen to 50 and was young during the G-Unit days and shyt. He just put himself in position to represent for those nikkas... He plays that up by disregarding all his competition as "WEIRD" and all that shyt but trust me that nikka dont really feel that way. He is extremely intelligent. He just hustling and im not knocking his hustle. But miss me with the dumb shyt. :comeon:

My only point is the only type of street music aint gangsta rap u ignorant muthafukka. To be street does not = being a gangster... Tribe was street rap, Outkast is street rap, ASAP is street rap and them nikkas moist as shyt. They black nikkas from the street speaking they perspective that in itself is street rap, THAT IS THE ROOT OF fukkING HIP HOP nikka... not Coke Fairy Tales and going super hard to prove you real.

I like his songs tho. He's catchy he can rhyme and he works hard. But I cant get with the manipulation b. His whole campaign is some reverse hate shyt. its stupid. And mark my words its gonna come back and bite him in his ass.



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I travel between central Florida and Las Vegas. Every black person I know under 25 listens to weirdo rap. Guys like french and trappers are club only type music. Street rappers might as well be the same person. They have no loyal fan bases. Cole and gambino will eat longer than any street rapper.

This nikka on the pipe :ohhh:
 

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if he had some real dope money, he would have a real publicist, and real distribution.

Its about the music and Troy ave is buzzing harder than any of these other new nikkas.
You talking PR and distribution as if that isnt corporate logistics. Since when has ANY unsigned artist done that?:what: Artists grow organically by flooding the streets with music, doing interviews and features, and on top hes financing videos for his songs catering to the modern social media era. What more do you want from him?

your both wrong, troy ave has an EXCELLENT publicist or management or team behind him, because at the end of the day dudes will sit and discuss Troy Ave. Wether he is wack or he is dope in your opinion you actually know and discusss him online... AND DUDE HAS NO REAL BUZZ. No hate on bro, i respect his hustle, but point blank like i said before, Chinx Drugz is an unsigned mixtape dude who has a current hit in rotation and tearing up nyc 'feelings', folks are talking about Troy Ave like he is someone on the rise, yet he has NO BUZZ in NYC compared to Chinx Drugz, who isnt even on anyones radar online. Someone said he is opening up for Chinx Drugz at shows I dont know if thats real, but as far as actual popularity in NYC goes it makes complete sense. When you have an unsigned dude, with no hits, is getting more attention and spins than dudes with legitimate local hits thats a sign they got good management/publicist...

Troy Ave has excellent team behind him, he just doesnt have any actual hits...
 

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As far as the 'weirdo' thing goes, thats all mind games. Its attempting to be like 'player hater', take a phrase turn it around and use the phrase to win on an emotional level because you have no rational logical argument. Troy Ave for good or bad is repping the 'nyc gangsta hook singer' angle, thats his niche, he is just trying to work that. As far as being weirdo, there are more 'square' dudes than 'gangsta' dudes on the streets, most dude really aint out there selling drugs, busting guns, and pimping hoes... it just doesnt really work like that... the reason why the Drakes, JColes, Wales, etc blew up in the first place is because the whole supa gangsta image got played out... Troy is playing a dangerous marketing angle because he is really belittling the 'normal' dude and calling them 'weirdo', this can work, it worked with 'player hater' where the game had the normal dudes psychologically grouping themselves with the rich elite players instead of the normal, but it can just as easily backfire...

I really aint mad at Troy, I hope he blows, just to see what he does when he gets a real chance... he is ok, he just aint that original, aint that skilled, and at this point aint really that popular...
 

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nikka how the fukk is Kendrick weird? by that Logic Nas is weird... by that Logic Ghostface is weird... cause them nikkas all intellectual street rap acts with diverse content. This nikka Ave got a :flabbynsick: in 2014 ... that shyt weird to. How the fukk is Kendrick weird, what is weird about him he talks about being a black male in america from a regular guys perspective. How the fukk is that weird im just baffled by your logic. This nikka even has song called "AVERAGE JOE"!!! I dont even listen to the nikka like that, but how is he a "Weirdo" please explain this to me... :mindblown:

Truth is this... I fukk with Troy Ave's music... and in the streets nikkas know him, but I will say that, nobody really listens to him like that. His hype is blown way out of proportion there is no Max B shyt going on (No hate, I WANT this nikka to blow cuz the tri state NEEDS him). But my young wild nikkas listen to Meek Mill and Cheif Keef, Ross, 2Chainz, shyt like that. They not listening to no Troy Ave. They know him, they respect him, but they aint saying thats they favorite rapper or quoting his lyrics on facebook and shyt. Truthfully rapping is kinda corny in the streets to these young nikkas... it's a whatever type thing now. With that being said he's on the radio etc. I know I get it... but answer this question for me... What separates this nikka from Red Cafe???

Name me one thing that's different about them? Huge cosigns, on Hot 97 all day, Got money, In the club, poppin shyt about they lifestyle etc. but them nikkas dont be compelling enough, or "weird" enough to actually make it over the hump. The shyt he's doing has been done before. :what:

Ima tell you what this nikka is doing and keep in mind im not a hater, and I fukk with his music... but its obvious... Troy Ave is playing on nikkas ignorance for nostalgia and using it to propel himself as the savior of street rap. It's a certain sect of nikkas who aint really net savvy or disregard everything new as "WEIRDO, TIGHT PANTS RAP etc." when really its just the culture moving forward. These the type of nikkas that still listen to 50 and was young during the G-Unit days and shyt. He just put himself in position to represent for those nikkas... He plays that up by disregarding all his competition as "WEIRD" and all that shyt but trust me that nikka dont really feel that way. He is extremely intelligent. He just hustling and im not knocking his hustle. But miss me with the dumb shyt. :comeon:

My only point is the only type of street music aint gangsta rap u ignorant muthafukka. To be street does not = being a gangster... Tribe was street rap, Outkast is street rap, ASAP is street rap and them nikkas moist as shyt. They black nikkas from the street speaking they perspective that in itself is street rap, THAT IS THE ROOT OF fukkING HIP HOP nikka... not Coke Fairy Tales and going super hard to prove you real.

I like his songs tho. He's catchy he can rhyme and he works hard. But I cant get with the manipulation b. His whole campaign is some reverse hate shyt. its stupid. And mark my words its gonna come back and bite him in his ass.

This post should close up this thread.
 

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your both wrong, troy ave has an EXCELLENT publicist or management or team behind him, because at the end of the day dudes will sit and discuss Troy Ave. Wether he is wack or he is dope in your opinion you actually know and discusss him online... AND DUDE HAS NO REAL BUZZ. No hate on bro, i respect his hustle, but point blank like i said before, Chinx Drugz is an unsigned mixtape dude who has a current hit in rotation and tearing up nyc 'feelings', folks are talking about Troy Ave like he is someone on the rise, yet he has NO BUZZ in NYC compared to Chinx Drugz, who isnt even on anyones radar online. Someone said he is opening up for Chinx Drugz at shows I dont know if thats real, but as far as actual popularity in NYC goes it makes complete sense. When you have an unsigned dude, with no hits, is getting more attention and spins than dudes with legitimate local hits thats a sign they got good management/publicist...

Troy Ave has excellent team behind him, he just doesnt have any actual hits...


all the so-called weirdo rappers have excellent pr.
troy ave does not,..and he is in new york.

has troy ave, been featured on any and every publication from a grassroots perspective like:

odd future
chance
vic mensa
kendrick lamar


all the rappers he dissed, have their shyt in place.
if duke is so hot a drug dealer and in the pr mecca.
why is he barely on juan epstein.
why is he not on fallen, with no known single.
why is he not plastered all over the redeye here, like odd future was.
where nikkaz are like calling me on the jack...
like yo,..e!
you're the expert...
you must know about this fatalbert mush mouth ski mask wearing dude on the cover of all the magazines on the street.

alternatively,,..not a fukk'n soul asks me about troy ave.
rightfully, so, because he is wack.
duke is so wack,..
i could not even sway not a person i know to give that shyt the time of day.
like say for instance when fiddy's war angel was out.
all because troy ave makes inferior music to even a high quality damn near classic record like fiddy.
yet, since fiddy is not hot.
even with pr,....it does not permeate.
troy ave, makes lesser inferior outdated music.
that nobody is gonna fukk with that dude.
plus, he alienates the type of consumer.
who would possibly give his record a chance spin, too.
as, troy ave defeats any possibility of drawing, in any marketplace.
nobody fukks with dude like that in ny,....
if so...it would be an explosion and undercurrent that was undeniable.


why is he not on the cover of the source, and winning awards with no hit records like chance.
why is he not winning best album of the year awards for section 80, like kl.
way before good kid maad city was killing.

spare me that bullshyt,..
dude, is a wack toy.
duke is a jealous gooflame hater, who is scared to battle.
plus, those weirdo rappers would make a fukkin mockery of him.
where he would have no fukk'n response and get clowned into oblivion.
to the point,...
he would look lame as fukk to this mystical core audience he tries to satiate with bullshyt.
all it takes is one tyler the creator mock style vid.
to take out troy ave, and remedy him past the non-draw.
he currently is,..yet, tyler who is a real pr darling.
wouldn't even waste a fish eye lens shot on this cluck body lame.

also,..he dissed kendrick who is a fukk'n real fukk'n blood.
i bet to kl's face he would not say none of that weirdo shyt.

they would body that fool.
as we all know troy ave is not seeing no blood set.
so, he needs to kill that bullshyt he talembout.
simply for the fact,..
if a blood nikka takes offense to see dude.
it won't be about hiphop.
as troy has taken it out of the realm of hiphop by saying he does not battle.
so, it will be some street shyt he is not fukk'n prepared to deal with at all on no level.
i don't care how many fukk'n drugs or money he got.

he need to stop playing.
his whole angle is bullshyt culture thief ignorance.

he keep talk'n,....
he does not know who chance knows, either.

troy better get about the culture.
all that bullshyt he is talk'n.
he is not prepared to really deal with those weirdo rappers with real gang ties.
after he took it out of a cultural context.
duke talk'n like he can't get touched if a set takes offense to that bullshyt he talking.

troy ave is not high powered to deal with no real gangsta shyt for real.
so, he needs to stop playing and plus apologize.
after he removes those rappers out of his mouth.








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