Troy Ave vs Joey Bada$$ (Round 2: Joey goes twitter fingers, Troy retaliates with more ether)

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How crazy is it that nikkas are bragging about selling 60k first week and 200k overall? :mjlol:Even for being independent, which he probably isn't :lolbron:.

:ohhh:

beef aside, wow :mjlol:

Both these nikkas numbers are pretty laughable :francis:

But I guess its a win cause...... NOBODY CARES :dead:

So 60k FW probably felt like half a million records :bryan:
 

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I'm talking about the bar for bar comparison of READY..
vs BAD ASS...
@Supa stop stanning, breh...

I wasn't talking about bars when I talked about weight class. I like maybe 5 Joey songs but I'm a stan?:mjlol: This aint about him I just hate Troy Ave's bullshyt. His music isn't bad but he does too much dumb shyt to be taken seriously. I'm in New York and he's not popping yet he tells us he's the best we've got. Anything that will get him the fukk outta here I'm all for it:blessed:

How crazy is it that nikkas are bragging about selling 60k first week and 200k overall? :mjlol:Even for being independent, which he probably isn't :lolbron:.

60k/200k indie is huge. Tech 9 did 56k first week his last album and 36k the one before that. We know he's eating better than most rappers on majors even with gold/platinum albums under their belt. They pocket more per album and with merch sales + touring added in :whew:. Joey's indie. He's signed to an indie label which is distributed by Sony Red.

Yeah, ok, and the guys you named weren't the only ones getting in beefs back then. Rappers of all levels of popularity battled and all of them went harder than nikkas now. Just cause they didn't bring up anyones dead homie didn't mean they didn't go hard. Hov brought up the Carmen shyt, Pac went at Big hard, and just in general we've seen beefs where both sides go mad hard. Eminem has said crazy lines towards other cats. Ja Rule brought up Em's daughter right? Y'all crying about Troy ave saying some wild shyt, he was just being hip hop and dissing Joey as hard as he could. The fact that Troy mentioned the dead nikka for ammo should gives Joey more of a reason to respond, and even further proves your post invalid. You bringing up if Jay dissed Ill Will, who fukking cares? Nas and Hov were real nikkas who battled like real rap nikkas.

Troy went hard at Joey and Joey is sidestepping and he supposed to be the 90s nikka. Plus you're making a case for why he shouldn't respond, bringing up sales, give me a break. Joey aint big enough to duck this shyt.

You're making my point. You can go hard without crossing the line. Most rappers understand that. Saying something that reckless doesn't warrant a reply record but a physical response. Joey's not a street nikka so if he's not gonna see him face to face then ignore it. Troy knew that going in which is why he apologized to Styles and I doubt he'll address Royce.
 
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60k/200k indie is huge. Tech 9 did 56k first week his last album and 36k the one before that. We know he's eating better than most rappers on majors even with gold/platinum albums under their belt. They pocket more per album and with merch sales + touring added in :whew:. Joey's indie. He's signed to an indie label which is distributed by Sony Red.

nikka puttin Obama smileys as if hes receiving percentages :mjlol:

But you "not a stan" but thinking of his profits got you sweating :lolbron:

Idc what anyone says... 7k... 56k..60k.... ALL FLOPS. Even in this era where no one buys music... STILL a flop. :deadmanny:

So basically, were discussing who flopped LESS :skip:

60k first week got you like :whew:

Imagine if he was actually a factor in the rap game and actually sold REAL records, you wouldnt be able to contain yourself :dead:
 

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The "Joey bad ass is marketed as a good rapper when he's really not" couldn't be more accurate. He's really not that good a rapper. Does he have any quotables? And this is from someone who thought Joey was a breath of fresh air when he first dropped and thought 1999 was damn near classic

But if you compare Joey Bad ass to really dope rappers like Pusha T or Ransom or King Los, he's really elementary. And it's not like he has an amazing flow or delivery either. He's basically El Da Sensi level of rhyming, if not slighly below.
 

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The "Joey bad ass is marketed as a good rapper when he's really not" couldn't be more accurate. He's really not that good a rapper. Does he have any quotables? And this is from someone who thought Joey was a breath of fresh air when he first dropped and thought 1999 was damn near classic

But if you compare Joey Bad ass to really dope rappers like Pusha T or Ransom or King Los, he's really elementary. And it's not like he has an amazing flow or delivery either. He's basically El Da Sensi level of rhyming, if not slighly below.

To be fair his whole style reminds me of dudes like that, I feel he tries to evoke those of a similar ilk and it comes off sounding ehh, keeping it 100 he's the MC in the posse cut you tune out or at best tolerate, thinking about it further the middle spot in a three man track was designed for MC's like that.

Troy Ave on the other hand :piss:
 

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The "Joey bad ass is marketed as a good rapper when he's really not" couldn't be more accurate. He's really not that good a rapper. Does he have any quotables? And this is from someone who thought Joey was a breath of fresh air when he first dropped and thought 1999 was damn near classic

But if you compare Joey Bad ass to really dope rappers like Pusha T or Ransom or King Los, he's really elementary. And it's not like he has an amazing flow or delivery either. He's basically El Da Sensi level of rhyming, if not slighly below.

:dahell: :wtf:

you probably like Kevin Gates
 

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:dwillhuh: the booth is really one of the worst outside TLR like the OG's said.

Y'all cant be REAL RAP fans talkin about he brought up a dead loser. Fuccn royce mentioned buggs, ja shytted on hayley, gucci brings up jeezy mans, pac brought up kids, biggie dissed a dead pac on the OG LKGN I can go on. Underground rappers diss the dead when they no longer fuk wit the old crew.
 

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He reminds me of a wacker Shabaam Shadeeq...for REAL...being all the way reality...breh reminds me of Malachi the nutcracker and lil dap put together. Just a tad bit more advanced because he tries.

troy ave is a bum
 

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Joey badass is a fraud a p*ssy and a lame for trying to run with some 90s gimmick. Like he would of survived in that time period. You might not like Troy but he BEEN grinding and he do be outside . So he can talk his shyt to the like of joey. Joey tough now ?? Don't let these cacs gas you Joey
 

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:dwillhuh: the booth is really one of the worst outside TLR like the OG's said.

Y'all cant be REAL RAP fans talkin about he brought up a dead loser. Fuccn royce mentioned buggs, ja shytted on hayley, gucci brings up jeezy mans, pac brought up kids, biggie dissed a dead pac on the OG LKGN I can go on. Underground rappers diss the dead when they no longer fuk wit the old crew.

murder inc actually tried to murder 50 cent and jeezy sent his homeboy to kill gucci. So shyt is not even comparable.

Not that I don't agree with your general point.
 
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