Troy Ave vs Joey Bada$$ (Round 2: Joey goes twitter fingers, Troy retaliates with more ether)

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East hasn't topped the New York City album with any of his projects yet IMO...

I think Ave has better concepts, hooks, picks better beats. East is the better lyricist but he gets overrated due to Nas co-sign and is overall vocally lacking. His voice is good I just find his flow repetitive he seems to yell a lot in the booth. Both make good music though. I see nikkas in here saying Troy is wack, he's really not that bad at all and makes pretty good music overall. I personally think Troy has a lot of dope songs...like on some deadass shyt how could you say tracks like these are bad hip hop music.








and actually has the city behind him.
Not really nikkas are just finding out who East is...

He don't get more play than Troy in the city he signed to Nas and has more online/blog coverage because he on Mass Appeal.

Bytches love that She Belongs To The Game song in NYC and All About The Money was a hot street record in NYC that got steady play at clubs, parties, whips, etc.
 
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East hasn't topped the New York City album with any of his projects yet IMO...

I think Ave has better concepts, hooks, picks better beats. East is the better lyricist but he gets overrated due to Nas co-sign and is overall vocally lacking. His voice is good I just find his flow repetitive he seems to yell a lot in the booth. Both make good music though. I see nikkas in here saying Troy is wack, he's really not that bad at all and makes pretty good music overall. I personally think Troy has a lot of dope songs...like on some deadass shyt how could you say tracks like these are bad hip hop music.
My nikka.. I listen to both but Dave East is a better artist on every aspect. How is he overrated? Black Rose and Hate Me Now are better than NYC The Album IMO.

Dave East is a New York rapper that sounds like a New York rapper without needing to copy other artists' style like Troy Ave. Better lyrics, more flows, better delivery, better ear for beats.







Or maybe I can relate more to East:manny:
 

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My nikka.. I listen to both but Dave East is a better artist on every aspect. How is he overrated? Black Rose and Hate Me Now are better than NYC The Album IMO.

Dave East is a New York rapper that sounds like a New York rapper without needing to copy other artists' style like Troy Ave. Better lyrics, more flows, better delivery, better ear for beats.







Or maybe I can relate more to East:manny:

I fukk with both, like I said East is the better rapper if we talking bars. I feel like Ave can really craft songs though like I said I dig his hooks, concepts and beats more. I've been critical of East's delivery/flow not really his voice as have other users on this site.

Who is Troy copying? 50 and Troy don't rhyme alike, Troy has a very different distinctive voice and his own set of ad libs and themes/stories in his music. His flow is on some 50/Mase shyt at times other than that I don't see it.
 

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East hasn't topped the New York City album with any of his projects yet IMO...

I think Ave has better concepts, hooks, picks better beats. East is the better lyricist but he gets overrated due to Nas co-sign and is overall vocally lacking. His voice is good I just find his flow repetitive he seems to yell a lot in the booth. Both make good music though. I see nikkas in here saying Troy is wack, he's really not that bad at all and makes pretty good music overall. I personally think Troy has a lot of dope songs...like on some deadass shyt how could you say tracks like these are bad hip hop music.

Not really nikkas are just finding out who East is...

He don't get more play than Troy in the city he signed to Nas and has more online/blog coverage because he on Mass Appeal.

Bytches love that She Belongs To The Game song in NYC and All About The Money was a hot street record in NYC that got steady play at clubs, parties, whips, etc.

Dave does have that Meek Mill, fast, yelling style. He needs to slow it down sometimes but he makes better music than Troy currently and is easily the better rapper. Troy just makes catchier, radio friendly music.

When I say people fukk with Dave I'm talking about love. He's not beefing with anyone and Fab and D Block collab with him. Everyone says he's next up. He can unify the city unlike Troy. His stock is still rising while Troy's is stagnant.

He's actually doing shows overseas unlike Troy.

 

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I fukk with both, like I said East is the better rapper if we talking bars. I feel like Ave can really craft songs though like I said I dig his hooks, concepts and beats more. I've been critical of East's delivery/flow not really his voice as have other users on this site.

Who is Troy copying? 50 and Troy don't rhyme alike, Troy has a very different distinctive voice and his own set of ad libs and themes/stories in his music. His flow is on some 50/Mase shyt at times other than that I don't see it.
You can't hear the 50 influence? Even the shyt talking at the end of the new mixtape intro... but especially on his early mixtape and She Belongs To The Game is some 2016 Puffy and Mase rebirth.

Like I said before, Troy Ave is hit or miss to me. The last mixtape I really enjoyed from him was BSB Vol. 4. That shyt was on rotation for days and it's crazy cause I didn't like the mixtapes he did before and after that lmao. He got one with the White Christmas 3 though
 

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talking about indie percentages in here.
i just remembered Jim Jones went gold on indie...no wonder he became so insufferable.

went from hype man to video director to asking Dame for a million dollar budget for an album and getting told no, went indie and never looked back.

he's better than Dave East :manny:

fukk outta here.

Joey said he has an 85-15. Troy said either 85-15 to 90-10 because Empire pays a percentage to his lawyer.

Troy is wasting his opportunity with the extra shyt. He's burned bridges all over. ASAP, Beast Coast, TDE, Royce, Manolo Rose, Chance, etc. If you're indie you need to be out there networking and building relationships.

to be fair to him Troy is not interested in collabing with any of them in the slightest anyway.
90% of the features on his album were vets in the game.
 

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i can't believe Dave never pushed the joint with Mack Wilds.

Japan really like their Harlem rappers that are starting to bubble.
i remember Vado did a mini tour there...Mob members minus Rocky been there, pretty sure the Dipset b-teamers did too way back

Troy got bigger than i ever thought he'd away...even if some say it was with Hot97's help...i remember Troys music used to only get posted on the blogs at first because people were amused by the Harry Powder alias, the Bricks In My Backpack title and because he had that joint with Prodigy.
 

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i can't believe Dave never pushed the joint with Mack Wilds.

Japan really like their Harlem rappers that are starting to bubble.
i remember Vado did a mini tour there...Mob members minus Rocky been there, pretty sure the Dipset b-teamers did too way back

Troy got bigger than i ever thought he'd away...even if some say it was with Hot97's help...i remember Troys music used to only get posted on the blogs at first because people were amused by the Harry Powder alias, the Bricks In My Backpack title and because he had that joint with Prodigy.
:jbhmm: why does japan like harlem rappers so much?
 

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Troy is not gonna get the back and forth he wants.. thats gonna burn..lol
 

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:jbhmm: why does japan like harlem rappers so much?

The swag probably but most decent rappers can tour Japan. The crowds aren't nearly as big as Europe.

Troy hasn't been there yet :mjlol:

Troy is not gonna get the back and forth he wants.. thats gonna burn..lol

He's still taking shots on the gram and Twitter. It's over already. He still trying to to capitalize:



:stopitslime:
 

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My nikka.. I listen to both but Dave East is a better artist on every aspect. How is he overrated? Black Rose and Hate Me Now are better than NYC The Album IMO.

Dave East is a New York rapper that sounds like a New York rapper without needing to copy other artists' style like Troy Ave. Better lyrics, more flows, better delivery, better ear for beats.







Or maybe I can relate more to East:manny:

No theyre not...

Coli only fukking with East because of Nas. If that nikka wasn't signed to Nas yall would just shyt on him like he was random nikka from Harlem. You nikkas need stop it.
 
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No there not...

Coli only fukking with East because of Nas. If that nikka wasn't signed to Nas yall would just shyt on him like he was random nikka from Harlem. You nikkas need stop it.

So his music isn't good but people pretend to like it because Nas cosigned?:stopitslime:

Maybe people just fukk with the music.
 
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