Trump Administration Discussed Coup Plans With Rebel Venezuelan Officers

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Obviously Maduro and company don't know much about international trade and currency management. The single greatest cause of Venezuela’s crisis is the government’s mismanagement of its currency. The problem stems from the coexistence of three different exchange rates, and the gulf between the lower of two official rates and the black market rate. They should have re-established a free float which would immediately end one of the major incentives for corruption, and would have quickly lead to an easing of scarcities, a rise in imports, and increased production. Why didn't Maduro or Chavez do this? Perhaps to keep the military officials who are benefiting from the corruption happy (so they don't heed opposition calls for a coup?) and keep import businesses happy. Those entities get provided dollars by the government at the lower official rate. These businesses and officials often trade these dollars on the black market in order to make obscene profits.

And its interesting that US diplomats are meeting with military officials under sanctions for drug trafficking and corruption.

But one thing we have to remember its not just about a coup. The financial sanctions have had a big impact on Venezuela as well. 95% of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars has left the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings has turned this into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe.

Last year, Venezuela’s export revenues rose from $28 to $32 billion, cause of increased world oil prices. Under normal conditions, a rise in a country’s exports would leave it with more resources to pay for its imports. But in the Venezuelan case, imports fell by 31 percent during the same year. The reason is that the country lost access to international financial markets. Unable to roll over its debt, it was forced to build up huge external surpluses to continue servicing that debt in a desperate attempt to avoid a default. Meanwhile, creditors threatened to seize the Venezuelan government’s remaining revenue sources if the country defaulted, including refineries located abroad and payments for oil shipments.

So, for example, CITGO is not allowed to send a lot of money back to Venezuela. But even more importantly, they can’t borrow. So, they spent billions of dollars last year paying off loans. The government is paying off loans because they can’t borrow. And the sanctions actually prevents them from borrowing from the U.S. financial system or anything that goes through the U.S. financial system. And the financial institutions are very conservative about this, so even though there’s allowances for a certain kind of trade credits or loans that could be used to get food or medicine, they’ll cut that because they don’t want to get fined by the U.S. government.

If they want to restructure their debt, which would be a very big part of getting out of the depression and hyperinflation that they have right now, they can’t do that under the embargo either. They are trying to strangle the economy, and they’re trying to overthrow the government.
 

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:dahell: Who are you talking to??? The US doesn't give a fukk about the world on some humanitarian shyt, it's ALWAYS been about what's in it for US... PERIOD... keep it 100... :stopitslime: They don't give a fukk when schoolkids getting bombed in a bus by rockets we sold the saudi's do they???
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Well be the world's goons, bullies, murderers and policemen and pay the price for intervening in countries that have absolutely NOTHING to do with you...:beli:
Actually, it has quite a bit to do with us.

Russia and China have outsize stakes in Venezuelan oil.

That Oil goes right to the USA.

What happens to Venezuela is therefore in our National Security interest :ufdup:
 

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@ORDER_66 I really hope you're over the age of like...21...because if you don't understand this stuff, you're kinda lost for life.

Countries dont exist independently of one another.

Venezuela is operating as a narco-state at the moment. Their Vice President is a drug kingpin.
 

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@ORDER_66 I really hope you're over the age of like...21...because if you don't understand this stuff, you're kinda lost for life.

Countries dont exist independently of one another.

Venezuela is operating as a narco-state at the moment. Their Vice President is a drug kingpin.

And OUR PRESIDENT IS A fukkING RETARD SO!!? :dahell: You acting as if it's the american responsibility to keep the ENTIRE fukkING WORLD IN LINE?!?! :mindblown: the unmitigated fukking gall to impose this countries policies on another after all the bullshyt america has going on in the middle east is fukking insane...

IT'S NOT OUR COUNTRY, WHO GIVES A fukk, LET THE UNITED NATIONS DEAL WITH THIS BULLshyt... :camby: this is why america is in a constant state of perpetual war fukking idiots...:hhh:
 

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It will be hard to launch a coup because it will likely end in a civil war. And Hugo Chavez designed it this way. The regime has a plethora of armed paramilitary groups. The National Guard and Militia along with the colectivos are filled hard core chavismo supporters. So if this coups by the Venezuelan army which has factions which are loyal to the regime succeeds what will they do with the National guard,national militia and pro govt colectivos militias in the poorest hoods in Venezuela? It will lead to a bloody civil war which South America cannot afford since Brazil,Argentina, Colombia,Chile,Ecuador are all going through economic hardship. Toppling a government is easy but maintaining the peace is hard. Best case scenario for Venezuela would be a soft internal coup by the part leaders of PSUV to just let Maduro go as a way of stemming a potential implosion and ensuring a soft landing in a post-Maduro world. But what Washington is doing is going to make things worse. Because it will seen as an outsider imperial play by the US and the hard core PSUV supporters in the National Guard,National miltiia and the colectivos will fight back. Washington still hasn't learned their abysmal regime change policies.
 

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The US policy towards the humanitarian crisis in Yemen which is the worst in the world is hyon so what is the difference?

goal posts and I'm not sure if it's the worst in the world...



the situations aren't even comparable either
 

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goal posts and I'm not sure if it's the worst in the world...



the situations aren't even comparable either

Yemen 'worst humanitarian crisis in the world': EU
Yemen war is 2018's worst humanitarian crisis, UN says - CNN
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewelin...orlds-worst-humanitarian-crisis/#201bfcfb5050
‘It’s a Slow Death’: The World’s Worst Humanitarian Crisis

There you have it. The United Snakes of America is enabling and supporting the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. Its worst than Syria because there is famine,water shortage, cholera outbreak in Yemen. Yemen was already the poorest nation in the mideast so this war made shyt even worst. The US is a hypocritical power that preaches human rights and talks of humanitarian rights should be guarded but support shyt like this. FOH.
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There you have it. The United Snakes of America is enabling and supporting the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. Its worst than Syria because there is famine,water shortage, cholera outbreak in Yemen. Yemen was already the poorest nation in the mideast so this war made shyt even worst. The US is a hypocritical power that preaches human rights and talks of humanitarian rights should be guarded but support shyt like this. FOH.

This has what to do with Venezuela? Just because Yemen is X it has no bearing on what happens in Venezuela.

The US has historically given aid to Yemen directly and through the UN. What the US does today with Trump is in charge is anyones guess. There's a war going on there and all of the geopolitical issues that involve that..

That isn't the case in Venezuela.

You don't even realize how stupid you sound.
 
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This has what to do with Venezuela? Just because Yemen is X it has no bearing on what happens in Venezuela.

The US has historically given aid to Yemen directly and through the UN. What the US does today with Trump is in charge is anyones guess. There's a war going on there and all of the geopolitical issues that involve that..

That isn't the case in Venezuela.

You don't even realize how stupid you sound.
I responded to your comment where you implied those who were against this hare brain idea of a coup which has no guarantee to succeed was basically hyon. I basically showed that the US is hyon on Yemen which also going though an even worse humanitarian crisis than Yemen. When I said Yemen is worst than Venezuela that you didn't think that was true. I proved to you it was. The US does allow aid but Saudi Arabia picks and chooses who gets the aid. Secondly the US is helping what is left of the GCC to enforce an embargo to basically starve Yemen to submission which ironically they accuse Russia and Assad for doing in Syria which they do I am not denying it. All I am saying America picks and chooses what humanitarian crisis they want to intervene. All I am saying is be more consistent with your outrage because it looks like you look one over the other.
 
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And OUR PRESIDENT IS A fukkING RETARD SO!!? :dahell: You acting as if it's the american responsibility to keep the ENTIRE fukkING WORLD IN LINE?!?! :mindblown: the unmitigated fukking gall to impose this countries policies on another after all the bullshyt america has going on in the middle east is fukking insane...

IT'S NOT OUR COUNTRY, WHO GIVES A fukk, LET THE UNITED NATIONS DEAL WITH THIS BULLshyt... :camby: this is why america is in a constant state of perpetual war fukking idiots...:hhh:
Wrong again. Its vastly important to our national security, access to resources, and our ability to limit our enemies advancement.
 
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