Trump Administration Pulls $929 Million In Funding For California's High-Speed Rail

[Pressure]

Let’s stay on topic.
Saving the planet is the objective, and we shouldn’t be taking anything off the table

Nah, I'm just trying to get places faster (and safe). :Denzlol:

 

[Secure Da Bag]

@ using Japan as any kind of metric for what we should be doing.
Damn shame whats happened to America... we used to lead.

That said, America IMO is a unique beast and requires tailored solutions. What other countries have going on doesn't mov me at all.

So basically, "let's make an arbitrary argument so no solutions can be implemented." Again, gotcha.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

America along with the U.N.() are rejecting the study of geo-engineering solutions.
The left doesn't want to save the planet, they want to save the planet this one way and only this way... its an agenda.

Proposal for U.N. to study climate-cooling technologies rejected - Reuters



rejecting the study of, they don't even want to look at alternative solutions to saving the species. Just lump the geo-engineers in with the deniers and keep it pushing.

What in the unholy fukk are you lying about?

Observers at the U.N. Environment Assembly in Nairobi said the Swiss-backed proposal was rejected in part because it called for a “precautionary principle” approach to geoengineering the climate.

That principle says great care must be taken in starting activities that have unclear risks for human health or the environment.

The United States, Saudi Arabia and Brazil were among the strongest opponents of the U.N. environmental body taking up consideration of geoengineering technologies, with Japan also expressing reservations, meeting participants said.

The article was written in March of 2019. It is a Swiss-backed proposal and was rejected by the U.S., Brazil, and Saudi Arabia. In what world are those 3 govts, "the Left"?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

This isn't a solution this a waste of money.



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America along with the U.N.() are rejecting the study of geo-engineering solutions.
The left doesn't want to save the planet, they want to save the planet this one way and only this way... its an agenda.

Proposal for U.N. to study climate-cooling technologies rejected - Reuters



rejecting the study of, they don't even want to look at alternative solutions to saving the species. Just lump the geo-engineers in with the deniers and keep it pushing.

Do you know anything about the history of "solving" environmental problems like this? Anything?

Any attempt like this is massively experimental. You have no idea what effect it will have on the whole system. You have no idea what the side effects will be. There's no meaningful way to "test" geo-engineering on a complete planetary system first. So the potential for catastrophic failure is huge.

We have massive failures and terrible side-effects all the time (see the thread just today about our overuse of fungicides creating superbugs). We accidentally bring rats over and they eat all the bird eggs, we introduce mongoose to eat the rats...and they eat the bird eggs too. Disastrous side effect that wasn't predicted. Now you want to experiment with the entire planet all at once.


Secondarily, geo-engineering does zero to address the root issues. What produces greenhouses gases? Things like burning fossil fuels, burning/cutting down forests, industrial emissions, etc. So let's say you geo-engineer a solution to the rising temperatures. Does that solution also address the rising acidity of the oceans, or are you just gonna let that one cook? Does it also address the smog and other toxic pollutants that all that fossil fuel burning is creating, or can we ignore that now? Does it address the forests and jungles that go missing and the giant fields of farting cows?

Geo-engineering on a planetary scale is an untested and untestable hypothesis, just as likely to backfire as to succeed, that only addresses one of many symptoms of the problem and does nothing to address the root issues at all.

 

[DEAD7]

Do you know anything about the history of "solving" environmental problems like this? Anything?

Any attempt like this is massively experimental. You have no idea what effect it will have on the whole system. You have no idea what the side effects will be. There's no meaningful way to "test" geo-engineering on a complete planetary system first. So the potential for catastrophic failure is huge.

We have massive failures and terrible side-effects all the time (see the thread just today about our overuse of fungicides creating superbugs). We accidentally bring rats over and they eat all the bird eggs, we introduce mongoose to eat the rats...and they eat the bird eggs too. Disastrous side effect that wasn't predicted. Now you want to experiment with the entire planet all at once.


Secondarily, geo-engineering does zero to address the root issues. What produces greenhouses gases? Things like burning fossil fuels, burning/cutting down forests, industrial emissions, etc. So let's say you geo-engineer a solution to the rising temperatures. Does that solution also address the rising acidity of the oceans, or are you just gonna let that one cook? Does it also address the smog and other toxic pollutants that all that fossil fuel burning is creating, or can we ignore that now? Does it address the forests and jungles that go missing and the giant fields of farting cows?

Geo-engineering on a planetary scale is an untested and untestable hypothesis, just as likely to backfire as to succeed, that only addresses one of many symptoms of the problem and does nothing to address the root issues at all.

Sounds like reason enough to reject the study of these solutions

 

[jj23]

Sounds like reason enough to reject the study of these solutions

@DEAD7
They found a cure for cancer

@Rhakim
Nah, on closer review it just stops patients from going bald during radiation therapy, it doesn't cure the root cause of cancer at all.

@DEAD7
Sounds like reason enough to reject the study of these solutions

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Kinda feel like dead has earned a ban, not going to lie

 

[Snoopy Loops]

@DEAD7
They found a cure for cancer

@Rhakim
Nah, on closer review it just stops patients from going bald during radiation therapy, it doesn't cure the root cause of cancer at all.

@DEAD7
Sounds like reason enough to reject the study of these solutions

Dude must either be an idiot or trolling us. Either way it’s not amusing.

 

[DEAD7]

@ the flaws in the proposals being reason to not study/explore tech options and improve on them.
The agenda is real.

Ban me for not supporting the green solution axiomatically. All the dumb shyt i post and this is ban worthy?
But no agenda though...

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Constantly shyt posting and trolling actually.

It’s old and pathetic


Sealioning - Wikipedia


Same lowbrow shyt the cac bigot does

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Libs hate the environment prove me wrong.


No, that’s really state capitalism you stupid Trot.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Dude must either be an idiot or trolling us. Either way it’s not amusing.

He’s trolling. When has he ever had a legitimate conversation we’re he comes to a conclusion or he agrees to a point? Always putting up bullshyt arguments instead valid solutions.

@DEAD7 : Makes thread on a problem plaguing the US

Also, @DEAD7 nah we can’t do that because....... no we can’t do that because it’s too expensive.... y’all get the point.