Trump defends Confederate flag, attacks Bubba Wallace

[Booker T Garvey]

Why respond if you aren't gonna respond

This is the type of retarded shyt I have to deal with

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I’m still trying to understand how saying “the noise has been in there since last year” or whatever they said makes in any different. It’s still a noise and was found in Bubbas area. Lol at Trump going at the sport that damn near has 100% fan support of him over this one little incident. Get him out of here man

 

[Professor Emeritus]

He turns into a Karen whenever he is called out on his trump support. "i'm being stalked" "why you following me around" "You're obsessed with me"

Notice he already has way more posts than anyone else in this thread, and NONE of them are calling out Trump's blatant, open defense of White supremacy. NONE of them are apologizing or taking back his own support of Trump on this board.

Instead, it's just 15 comments of, "Waaaah, Waaaah, us Trump supporters are so persecuted! Why do people keep quoting the receipts? Waaaah!"

 

[Samori Toure]

Dumbshyt talking point because the literal reason the Confederate flag even exists was in order to keep black folk in slavery.

USA always been racist but the American flag wasn't created as an explicit symbol of racism. The Confederate flag was explicitly made to say, "We won't be part of a country that doesn't allow us to expand the slavery of black folk as we please." There was no other reason for it to exist.

When both flags were created Black people were slaves. So I love how people have made the Confederate flag the face of slavery, when in fact slavery was legal in Northern States too under the Stars and Stripes; and actually more slaves were held under that flag and for a longer period of time. I guess that people just ignore the fact that Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation did not free the slaves in the Northern States and in States that were loyal to the Union that boarded on slave States. Lincoln only freed the slaves in Confederate held territories, but the Union did not control those territories. Yet somehow history shows that Jefferson Davis and the Confederacy was for slavery, while Lincoln himself said that he would have left Black people in slavery if it would have saved the Union. I don't understand how people make that dance around those facts.

In any event it does not even matter, because as Black people we are never going to have a reconciliation of the shyt that was done to use for the benefit of our Country.

 

[BaggerofTea]

People still going back in forth with that white ass kissing c00n @Booker T Garvey

He is a novelty at this point

 

[Professor Emeritus]

When both flags were created Black people were slaves. So I love how people have made the Confederate flag the face of slavery, when in fact slavery was legal in Northern States too under the Stars and Stripes; and actually more slaves were held under that flag and for a longer period of time.

This is literally the EXACT same argument I hear from racist White southerners defending the Confederate flag. You could also say that more Black people were slaves in Africa and for a longer period of time. If you want to go full retard, does that make Africa the true face of slavery?

USA has always been racist as fukk. The current President of America for the Confederate flag like that is just another proof of that. But the Confederate flag was literally CREATED in order to announce the South's desire to maintain slavery.


Here is South Carolina announcing why it was seceding from the Union:

We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction.

THAT was why the Confederate Rebel Flag was created. It was a direct protest to the claim that you could not hold Black folk as property, a direct protest to the claim that slavery was sinful, a direct protest to the actions of Northerners to help slaves get their freedom, a direct protest to the election of a president who hated slavery and ultimately desired its extinction.

The SOUTHERNERS themselves, in their own fukking words right there, were announcing, "We are far more racist than you Northerners and we're not going to put up with a country that allows anti-racist elements to act as they will or that would elect an anti-slavery president. The slavery of Black folk is more core to us than our American identity. We're out."

THAT is all the flag means. It has no other meaning than that. How do you not get that?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

People still going back in forth with that white ass kissing c00n @Booker T Garvey

He is a novelty at this point

^^^ and my FIFTH stalker!! they all came to see me in here....I need a minute

 

[Black Panther]

nikka you're a grown man that reads comic books....I could care less what you have to say.

Damn straight I do.

And you're still a Trump-defending Black conservative.

 

[Samori Toure]

This is literally the EXACT same argument I hear from racist White southerners defending the Confederate flag. You could also say that more Black people were slaves in Africa and for a longer period of time. If you want to go full retard, does that make Africa the true face of slavery?

USA has always been racist as fukk. The current President of America for the Confederate flag like that is just another proof of that. But the Confederate flag was literally CREATED in order to announce the South's desire to maintain slavery.


Here is South Carolina announcing why it was seceding from the Union:

THAT was why the Confederate Rebel Flag was created. It was a direct protest to the claim that you could not hold Black folk as property, a direct protest to the claim that slavery was sinful, a direct protest to the actions of Northerners to help slaves get their freedom, a direct protest to the election of a president who hated slavery and ultimately desired its extinction.

THAT is all the flag means. It has no other meaning than that. How do you not get that?

So you take the limited view that only the Confederates were the evil b*stards in this Country, but people like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc., were not evil too?

What kind of fugged up ignorance is that?

Did you know this about George Washington?


George Washington Used Legal Loopholes to Avoid Freeing His Slaves
One of his slaves fled to New Hampshire to escape becoming a wedding present
George Washington Used Legal Loopholes to Avoid Freeing His Slaves | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine


George and Martha Washington enslaved 300 people. Let’s start with their names.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...f7c362-b7e7-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html



That is literally the first President under the Stars and Stripes that you in here for over those evil b*stards in the Confederacy.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Damn straight I do.

And you're still a Trump-defending Black conservative.

Right, and the abundance of small teenage boys that do too combined w/the lack of grown women that don't just makes you a completely normal dude right? riiiiiiight.

and if running around calling people Trump supporters on the internet helps you sleep better at night, do you fukking sick weirdo.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So you take the limited view that only the Confederates were the evil b*stards in this Country, but people like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc., were not evil too?

What kind of fugged up ignorance is that?

are you ranting about? I didn't say anything like that. Are you even following the argument?

The Confederate flag was literally created to symbolize that Blacks should remain under the feet of the White man. That was its SOLE purpose to exist, the only reason why it was ever flown. How does that become okay to you just because other people were also racist?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

This generation, at this current moment in time, really needs a Lee Harvey Oswald

 

[Samori Toure]

are you ranting about? I didn't say anything like that. Are you even following the argument?

The Confederate flag was literally created to symbolize that Blacks should remain under the feet of the White man. That was its SOLE purpose to exist, the only reason why it was ever flown. How does that become okay to you just because other people were also racist?

The bullshyt you are discussing is all about symbolism. Who cares that they changed the plants in the yard if the Black men are still in the same hole in that yard. You and others are just looking at the symbolism of what some shyt means (removal of the Confederate flag and statues), but I am pointing out to you that the overall system is more fugged up than the symbolic thing that you are pointing to. The Confederacy only existed for 5 years, beginning in 1860; but how do we ignore that previous 221 of slavery that began in 1641 in Massachusetts that made slavery legal?

I can not look at the 5 years of the Confederacy as being worse than the overall shyt that existed in this Country since the beginning.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The bullshyt you are discussing is all about symbolism. Who cares that they changed the plants in the yard if the Black men are still in the same hole in that yard. You and others are just looking at the symbolism of what some shyt means (removal of the Confederate flag and statues), but I am pointing out to you that the overall system is more fugged up than the symbolic thing that you are pointing to. The Confederacy only existed for 5 years, beginning in 1860; but how do we ignore that previous 221 of slavery that began in 1641 in Massachusetts that made slavery legal?

I can not look at the 5 years of the Confederacy as being worse than the overall shyt that existed in this Country since the beginning.

Yes, we're talking about symbolism. When someone flies the Confederate flag, it symbolizes their support for White Supremacy. Saying, "But other people had slaves too!" really ain't where it's at breh. I'm not really sure why you going to such lengths to back that shyt.

 

[Samori Toure]

Yes, we're talking about symbolism. When someone flies the Confederate flag, it symbolizes their support for White Supremacy. Saying, "But other people had slaves too!" really ain't where it's at breh. I'm not really sure why you going to such lengths to back that shyt.

The "but" part is the most significant part, because "but for" the Country never acknowledging and reconciling issues around slavery then the Confederacy has become the face of slavery rather than the United States as a whole.

I have been pissed off for years that America's bullshyt founding fathers have been revered in American history, they were the original White Supremacists. They enslaved Africans, murdered Natives and stole lands from Native people and Mexico. Yet somehow they are not seen as the O.G. White Supremacists that they were.

Fugg the Confederacy, because I don't give a damn about them at all, but from the day you start school in this Country you are taught that Washington, Jefferson, etc, were these great men but you are never really taught what they were really about. It is actually complete bullshyt and on top of that they would have been in the Confederacy, because would have tried to preserve their slave plantations in Virginia.