🇺🇸 Trump has tapped Palantir to create a 'master database' on every American - The New Republic.

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The Trump administration has sought access to detailed citizen data, including bank account numbers, student debt amounts, medical claims, and disability status, from government databases.

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The New York Times has a new report on the administration awarding contracts to the controversial tech company Palantir, which is apparently helping Trump develop a database of Americans’ private information, scraped from various government agencies, that could theoretically be used to track or persecute them.

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DNA company 23 & Me went broke a few weeks ago and their whole operation was bought up by some private equity firm.... :sas2::francis:
 

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isnt this exactly what the cia / nsa is for??? :what:


Crazy thing is the government already has all this information. The problem is that it's siloed in various agencies with systems that don't talk to each other.


For example I've had various friends get denied clearance for work at certain federal agencies for disqualifying characteristics in their background. But they would apply again to a different government agency, and because the systems don't talk to each other they would get through.

For instance
  • the department of education already knows how much you owe in student loans.
  • The IRS knows how much you owe in private student loans, bank loans, mortgages.
  • The social security administration already knows if you're disabled.
  • FINRA and the FDIC already know your bank account numbers.
  • And the DOD already has the Genesis system which acceses all the medical information of every single American.
But the issue is that these are separate systems, running different programming languages, and with different access restrictions for users in the government. It's very expensive to do it this way, and extremely inefficient. I know it sounds crazy, but this would be a great idea if it came from a different messenger.

In my own computer science courses, we spoke about the concept of normalization in database design which is kind of what Trump is describing. In the tech context, Normalization dramatically decreases the cost of housing data, because the data is only stored in one place instead of several expensive places and it can be accessed easily by any person based on access restrictions of their position.
 

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isnt this exactly what the cia / nsa is for??? :what:
CIA/NSA has been court obligated to focus spying on external nations. They do court appearances to get green lights to spy on domestic persons.

This database Trump wants built doesn’t exist at all… there’s only a database of specific citizens that were green lighted. This new shyt is a completely different level.
 

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Crazy thing is the government already has all this information. The problem is that it's siloed in various agencies with systems that don't talk to each other.


For example I've had various friends get denied clearance for work at certain federal agencies for disqualifying characteristics in their background. But they would apply again to a different government agency, and because the systems don't talk to each other they would get through.

For instance
  • the department of education already knows how much you owe in student loans.
  • The IRS knows how much you owe in private student loans, bank loans, mortgages.
  • The social security administration already knows if you're disabled.
  • FINRA and the FDIC already know your bank account numbers.
  • And the DOD already has the Genesis system which acceses all the medical information of every single American.
But the issue is that these are separate systems, running different programming languages, and with different access restrictions for users in the government. It's very expensive to do it this way, and extremely inefficient. I know it sounds crazy, but this would be a great idea if it came from a different messenger.

In my own computer science courses, we spoke about the concept of normalization in database design which is kind of what Trump is describing. In the tech context, Normalization dramatically decreases the cost of housing data, because the data is only stored in one place instead of several expensive places and it can be accessed easily by any person based on access restrictions of their position.
your description of the current system is a positive, not a negative. it's good that they don't talk to each other. it's good that the relevant agencies know the relevant data.
 

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Crazy thing is the government already has all this information.

palantir collects a lot more than that list. they collect what the govt cannot.

they want to connect the dots between that and the above mentioned list.\

like where you surf and for how long. social networks. location data.

and it ain't just americans.

 
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