Trump is doing this tariff thing because he thinks it will bring a manufacturing base back to America. If he is correct will that benefit FBA men?

[Youngdev]

Every black man don’t wanna work in a factory

And that shyt ain’t gonna happen overnight even if it’s some manufacturing jobs created

 

[Clayton Endicott]

Unless they're paying Americans sub 5$ per hour and working super long hours physical labour none of that is happening.

That isn't even counting the infrastructure as Lucky says above. It would costs billions.

More like trillions. The plant I work at cost 2 billion to build in 05-06, and it was considered state of the art then. I could only imagine how much it would cost now; and our union president done drank the Kool Aid now

 

[Gloxina]

I don't see how bringing back a bunch of $5/hr jobs would be a net positive for the black community

Exactly, because:

He is not trying to re-industrialize America via tariffs. He is flat out lying to the people because we’re stupid collectively

Manufacturing jobs are not coming back to America and if they did then the cost of the product would be so high that manufacturers would have to leave America in order to stay in business.

Do y'all know how long it would take to build the infrastructure needed to re-establish the manufacturing industry in the US? Unless the USG is gonna subsidize or pay companies back for this, they’re not doing that shyt

Right-wing populism is rooted in false nostalgia. Things used to be better, even if they weren't.
We can't have it both ways. If a TV set costs $1500 instead of $500, there will be fewer TVs sold. Jobs that are supported by those sales will be lost, leaving even less money to buy those overpriced TVs.

The entire US economy relies on consumer spending. Home appliances, plane tickets, electronics, clothing etc, are all relatively much cheaper while rent/mortgages, health insurance, childcare are all relatively astronomically more expensive.

Also, manufacturing jobs paid well because they were highly unionized, and post WW2 almost the entire developed world was in ruin and the US had no competition for manufactured goods. And not only did they pay well, they could be obtained with a HS diploma, and due to the high demand, job openings were much more plentiful. The world just simply does not work like this anymore though. The competition for manufactured goods is much more fierce, and the US cost of living cannot compete with other countries without major reforms and long term planning.

It is basic math, you cannot bring back manufacturing jobs, while paying American salaries, when we have at least three generations that are accustomed to cheap stuff made in Asia. On top of that, cost of living is high, wages are stagnant, there are no unions to guarantee job security, and we are an an age were automation and AI can help companies save money (and they will always choose this option first).

We are falling behind rapidly while China has caught up and in some cases surpassed us.

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[Buddy]

Every black man don’t wanna work in a factory

And that shyt ain’t gonna happen overnight even if it’s some manufacturing jobs created

The muthafukkas that rep all this acronym bullshyt are salivating at the chance. They can't read the room.

*The Trump admin is talking about ROBOTS taking the bulk of these jobs

*The jobs that remain will require skills in AI/mechanics

*Educational attainment has been chopped at the knees after the assault on the Dept of Education.
*There is no "DEI" lane available.

*The "Gold Card" is literally begging foreigners to make it all a reality.


We're getting cornered at every turn and all cats know is "FBA" and "dELiNeATiOn is StiLL nEceSsArY" -- the delineation is happening right now. Are you wealthy and globally skilled or not? Pull yourself and your family up by the bootstraps and be happy we got rid of Hector

 

[badboys11]

They are not doing this to bring jobs back, it's called market manipulation

Trump and his people know exactly what plays to run at what time to make an incredible windfall out of the misery we are about to go through, and he doesn't care at all about America cause in his mind, America threw him in prison. He wants revenge, and he has the right people investing in his moves months ahead of time.

His cult needs a father figure and he is that to them. He can do no wrong.

He will get rich while the American population descends into poverty.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Thats not the reason he doing it

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

If you haven’t thought about how to use AI to make money yet, you are very behind the times.

Work as you know it will disappear in the next 10 years and the window is quickly closing for you to position yourself to not be among the suffering poor.

We have transitioned from the Information Age into the Automation Age and next will be the Non Human Intelligence Age.

If you are slow to act, you are dooming yourself and the future of your family. I can’t give y’all all the game, but that’s a nugget you can do something with if you can think outside the box of a 9 to 5 job.

AI is not going to save anyone but the wealthy

 

[Regular Developer]

I have an economics degree.
I'm not saying Trumps plan will work I'm saying what IF it does work

What math courses does economics require? As an engineer, I'm curious as to how they handle their mathematic formulas when things aren't ideal

 

[UpNext]

If we accept the premise at its face and he does bring manufacturing back to the country, in the long run yeah this will be a net positive for Americans, only if these jobs are 25-30+ /hr jobs with good benefits and not some temp work bs.

What's likely to happen is the tech overlords will just build factories using AI technology and the .1% will find a way to suck even more wealth from the world up. Unless you get a new wave of politicians in, in 2028 to throw a wrench in this and push for legislation to ensure the above 30 /hr scenario comes to pass or large scale rioting.

There aren't any politicians that will do this btw, and folks aren't about to riot over this either.

 

[Traveler]

Even with the tariffs it's still cheaper to manufacture overseas. All he has done is raise prices and create less demand because things cost more. Americans will have less money to spend with no new jobs coming cause companies have to cut back.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Lol

Theyll use automation and prison labor/migrant labor. The migrants can be sent back so they don't access(whatever is left of) the social safety net they paid into and prisoners don't have to be paid at all and can be deported anyway(if theyre migrants or the administration has decided they're migrants even though they may be FBA or anything else)

It's hilarious thinking that white people would be on some "hold up skeeter, leave him alone. He's a foundational black american not one of them dang immigrants" they do not care. Black people in their world view are either entertainers or servants. If you're not entertaining them or serving them, they arent interested in anything you want or have to say.

The point of tariffs are to protect weak industries that need time to grow. And the increased revenue from raising prices to pay the tariffs are supposed to go to hiring more staff and paying for Research and Development. In reality(at least in america) they just use that extra money to give managers bonuses and increase share holder dividend payments. As a shareholder, Donald Trump and his type will benefit from those higher dividends.

 

[the bossman]

I'm not saying Trumps plan will work I'm saying what IF it does work

Can you define "it does work"?

Like if millions of black people are able to get $5/hr manufacturing jobs in a few years, does that mean "it worked" in your eyes and that it's Net positive for us?

 

[Shysty]

Don't let them fool you. They are not doing these to bring manufacturing back.

The reason trump is doing it is to consolidate more power. Its forcing companies, states, countries to be in his favor and do as he says or he will increase/decrease tarrifs on your company or anything impacting your special interests.

 

[BaggerofTea]

if trump was serious, he would be about transforming Americans into the most advanced high tech labor force on the planet.


not this bringing jobs back from 30 years ago bullshyt

 

[3rdWorld]

I dont think anyones ready to slave away in a factory producing the countless mundane products Americans purchase.