Half the people who care so deeply about this don't live or work in NYC. What the fukk did Adams or DeBlasio do to improve anything related to cost of living, rising food costs, deterioration of the MTA, job quality? What did they do to inspire any belief in them? Mamdani can't be any worse than either of them.
Trump might have spoken to Cuomo and has been paying attention to NYC mayoral race.
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AnonymityX1000
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DeBlasio did get universal pre-K done. That definitely saved people money in day care.
Likeable candidates win elections. Also what does "failure" mean? Especially in comparison to status quo?
Kamala lost (if she really did, legitmate investigations are being held with tangible evidence of fukkery; but lets all play stupid for a moment and pretend that isnt happening) kamala lost momentum as soon as she went less populist, and more centrist.
She didnt lose because she was campaigning on trans rights; and trump didnt win because he gained *more* voters than he had in 2020.
Essentially like in 2016...people staying home hurt us. Less voter turn out hurt us. (If we discount voter suppression)
I dont care if Mamdani is DeBlasio 2.0. I only care that his appeal and impact will hurt other democrats.
I’d love it if NYC didn’t dominate politics in places where democrats in red states have to fight for legitimacy. Mamdani is bad for the party. NYC has to live with their choices though.
Again, what does mamdani's "failure" look like to you? Are you saying he's actually going to make New York worse, or are saying he wont get his ideas through, thus maintaining status quo? You know...like all the other candidates?
Cuomo is over here having dinners with Trump about Mamdani and that tells you to be worried about....mamdani and not Cuomo? Whats with these stephen A. Smith Arguments?
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Speaking of filibusting dikkheads. Let's point and laff at Booker getting dragged.
I remember this negro giving his struggle speech during the great recession, at a job fair event in in Newark. He tried to take it to church and nikkas wss laffing at him. We trying to get jobs and he channeling the spirit of MLK cause most of us were Black
stfuWhy is good messaging bad for the party? You dont believe candidates that merely talk about budget re-prioritization and rent are good for the party? shyt that actually affects people?
Versus...what exactly? What does a mamdani failure look like? You speak as if he's going to make NYC a hellscape, which is profoundly unlikely.
Again Cuomo is out here having dinner with Trump about Zohran, and your first instinct isnt to notice that something may be wrong with that?
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What he really means is if he wins all the current Dems move closer to being obsolete. He's bad for the current party which is at an all time low in popularity. But it could bring about the necessary change to the party in the future. Nap hates that! lol
people are reacting outside of NYC, because the far left is saying this guy winning a primary in NYC = some kind of national mandate for progressives. that isn't true
this guy wouldn't win shyt outside of a dark blue areaand as to the bolded, he's making a bunch of promises he can't keep. the MTA is raising prices because it's bankrupt, and he's talking about making buses free. so he's gotta deliver on this shyt, while somehow making the rich people that liberals hate, also pay all the bills
for the record, if Mamdani succeeds, i'll give him the credit he deserves. but for now, it's just talk
He’s being touted as the future of the party, not to mention he says completely unprofessional wacky shyt. Anything he says or does will reflect negatively on the party at large.
Cuomo litearlly called Trump. Thats all we know.
There's a belief from the do nothing branch of the party that maintaining status quo is paramount to finding political success…. Doesn't matter how many times they embarrassingly lose national elections to complete clowns like Trump.… the psychology is simply to continue pressing forward with the same losing strategies over and over and over and over again.…because results don't matter to the do nothings.…decorum and tradition do
AOC won and democrats had to figure out how to distance themselves from being labeled as endorsing everything she does. Thats the state of affairs. It’s not fair but ignoring reality isn’t going to be helping us.people are reacting outside of NYC, because the far left is saying this guy winning a primary in NYC = some kind of national mandate. that isn't true
and as to the bolded, he's making a bunch of promises he can't keep. the MTA is raising prices because it's bankrupt, and he's talking about making buses free. he's gotta deliver on this shyt, while somehow making the rich people that he hates, pay all the bills
Democrats are not a “do nothing” party. We’re just against stupid policies like “rent control” and giving NIMBY’s a hecklers veto to prevent more housing being built or appealing to criminal justice reform advocates who make streets unsafe.
You have no idea who is in your own party. Remember when you were convinced that a Dem populist couldn't win in NY? Now we have the Establishment on both sides forming like Voltron to take down 1 man. Sabotage from within doesn't help make your argument, it makes even more of what is supposed to be your base disillusioned and stay home.....again.
You want to sacrifice half the Dem base to win a quarter of Repubs who hate you anyway and wonder why you lose
