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TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018
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theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
Calm down breh, you're losing your cool. Responding very childish and not like a rational intelligent adult.The only bytch ass around here is you, you're a black liberal c00n, you care more about immigration issues than black issues
You harping about me having sex with Mexicans is a sign of a jealous homosexual
I don't have beef with individual Mexicans, a lot of Mexicans are cool but Mexico is racist white supremacist society and Its not in black peoples interest to have hordes of people Mexico come to the us
The fact that you make support of known racist people a litmus test of blackness is evidence that you are a black liberal c00n and a homosexual
I'm not an emotional fakkit like you so I have the amazing ability to separate sex and pleasure from geopolitics and my self interest
Illegal immigrants should be deported, the notion that somehow it is hypocritical for people from Vi to say that is
Your obsession with immigration is what is truly disturbing, you go around HL questioning the blackness of any poster that does support illegal immigration and you sticky these corny ass immigration threads
you're just lucky HL is a safe space for your radical and extremist black liberalism, in tlr you would be negged to Bolivia with your black brown coalition activism
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
there is nothing childish or irrational about what im saying, everything i said in that post is facts and logical
whats truly childish and not rational is using support for illegal immigration as a litmus test for blackness, saying illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote and responding to a story about about black families being firebombed by saying they dont see race
people are saying some truly crazy shyt in this thread, not me
This would be different if we weren’t talking about a problem 40 years in the making.
This makes no sense.Heard this argument from a podcast I listened to last night about immigration and its positive effect on the economy. I'll paraphrase it:
Say you have two individuals in the United States. Both are 18 and have a high school education.
They both work average jobs, get married, and have 2 or 3 kids. They drive average cars, live in average housing, and pay their taxes.
The only difference between them: one is a white American born in the US, the other is a DREAMer that immigrated from Mexico when they were 14.
Which one contributes more to the economy?
The native-born? Nope.
Are they the same? Nope.
The immigrant contributes more by far than a natural US citizen. In essence, a natural citizen uses tens of thousands of dollars worth of services and programs while not directly contributing to the economy before they start working.
Most DREAMers start work at an early age, so the immigrant in the example above hit the ground running in contributing to the economy. There's 14 years of tax-dependent services that the immigrant didn't use in the US, and if he started working and paying taxes at 14-15, he's miles ahead of the natural citizen in benefitting the economy.
Even if they both start working at 18, the immigrant still comes out on top in contributions.
The replishining rate does not factor in 15 million illegals of whom 80%+ have at least one job.
Stop tone policing and respond with a cogent article.
On the low you’re annoying as fukk when you do this dumb shyt.
Go patronize your kids like that, not us.
All of this is incontrovertible
Why should it factor in? I wasn't talking about illegal immigrants.
I'm not talking about legal immigrants in a vacuum, either. Immigration has a net positive result on the US economy, and I was giving one of the main reasons why.
The conclusion follows from the premises, and is sound, even if you think I'm leaving something out. :kanyebp:
Well again, illegals can get healthcare and free college.
Who is paying for that?
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
You sound like one of these white fake fiscal conservatives
.Your tax dollars go into a pool and that amount is insignificant in the grand scheme of taxes. Let's not act like an overwhelming majority of free healthcare and grant aid is being consumed by illegal immigrants.
You’re right.You sound like one of these white fake fiscal conservatives
Your tax dollars go into a pool and that amount is insignificant in the grand scheme of taxes. Let's not act like an overwhelming majority of free healthcare and grant aid is being consumed by illegal immigrants.
To be fair, I wouldn’t want a dime going towards them. Why can’t I say that then?
I mean they’re already not supposed to be here, so math withstanding what about principle?
I really don’t think you all understand how many people we are talking about.
We’re talking about a state between the population size of Illinois and New York of illegals.
Definitely an interesting argument. Real cool tbhHeard this argument from a podcast I listened to last night about immigration and its positive effect on the economy. I'll paraphrase it:
Say you have two individuals in the United States. Both are 18 and have a high school education.
They both work average jobs, get married, and have 2 or 3 kids. They drive average cars, live in average housing, and pay their taxes.
The only difference between them: one is a white American born in the US, the other is a DREAMer that immigrated from Mexico when they were 14.
Which one contributes more to the economy?
The native-born? Nope.
Are they the same? Nope.
The immigrant contributes more by far than a natural US citizen. In essence, a natural citizen uses tens of thousands of dollars worth of services and programs while not directly contributing to the economy before they start working.
Most DREAMers start work at an early age, so the immigrant in the example above hit the ground running in contributing to the economy. There's 14 years of tax-dependent services that the immigrant didn't use in the US, and if he started working and paying taxes at 14-15, he's miles ahead of the natural citizen in benefitting the economy.
Even if they both start working at 18, the immigrant still comes out on top in contributions.
theworldismine13
God Emperor of SOHH
800, 000 is a blip in the economy, so your example is meaningless in the overall debate over immigration. To answer the question passing the dream act would have negligible effect on the economy and little impact on any welfare program
The real question is what is the impact of legalizing 11 million people and then also to continue bringing millions more
Immigrants do help the economy, the bigger the population the bigger the economy, so increasing immigration helps the economy grow overall
That doesn't equate to increasing immigration is good because of the other impacts it has, it increases Income inequality because the increase in the economy goes to those at the top
The pool of low wage workers increases which causes a downward pressure on wages
So basically a little immigration is good a lot of immigration is bad
And its a mistake things to analyze things as if you are a rich educated white person with access to high paying jobs, when in reality black people are the population with the least education and highest employment rate
whatever podcast you are listening to is not asking the proper question about immigration and what impact it has on black people
All they did was ask a question written in such a way to produce a positive answer over the daca issue
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