TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018

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The real question is what is the impact of legalizing 11 million people and then also to continue bringing millions more


whatever podcast you are listening to is not asking the proper question about immigration and what impact it has on black people


But when it comes to whether DACA recipients are taking jobs away from other Americans en masse, one top economist says there aren't facts to back that up.

"There is no evidence of that," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, about Sessions' statement. "Repealing DACA is particularly wrongheaded as economic policy."

DACA beneficiaries also tend to be employed in higher-skilled jobs than workers who are in the country illegally.

"While the latter were heavily represented in jobs that involve manual work — such as construction and extraction, and building and grounds cleaning and maintenance — DACA-eligible workers were most commonly found in white-collar occupations that are usually done indoors in formal business settings," the Migration Policy Institute wrote in an August report.

I'm not saying that black people don't get passed over for jobs that they are otherwise qualified for (they definitely do, I know from personal experience), but please show me the direct impact of DACA recipients on black employment levels. Show me where qualified black people are being passed over en masse by DACA recipients specifically.

FACT CHECK: Are DACA Recipients Stealing Jobs Away From Other Americans?
 

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I'm not saying that black people don't get passed over for jobs that they are otherwise qualified for (they definitely do, I know from personal experience), but please show me the direct impact of DACA recipients on black employment levels. Show me where qualified black people are being passed over en masse by DACA recipients specifically.

FACT CHECK: Are DACA Recipients Stealing Jobs Away From Other Americans?

did you not read what i just posted, i just said that daca had little impact on the economy and little impact on anything, its just a blip

again, you are asking the wrong question, you should call into the podcast and ask these questions

why should black people lift a pinky on the issue?
what is the impact on the poorest, least educated and most unemployed demographic when you give amnesty to 11 million people and advocate for millions more in the future?
what is the impact of black people becoming the second or third largest non white group?
what is the impact of black people losing the little political power we do have in NYC, CA and FL by an influx of latino immigrants both legal and illegal?
do white liberals and their open borders agenda and them classifying black people as just another minority group actually protect you from white supremacy or are they just another version of white supremacy?
why do latino immigrants check of white in the census which is causing the white population INCREASE?
how does the 500 year history of white supremacy in latin america manifests itself in the latino immigrant community?

these are the questions you need to ask
 

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I'm not saying that black people don't get passed over for jobs that they are otherwise qualified for (they definitely do, I know from personal experience), but please show me the direct impact of DACA recipients on black employment levels. Show me where qualified black people are being passed over en masse by DACA recipients specifically.

FACT CHECK: Are DACA Recipients Stealing Jobs Away From Other Americans?
If you havent gathered it by now, no distinction is being made(nor will be made) on the right between DACA recipients and illegal immigrants... :yeshrug: They are illegally in this country. Their parents brought them here illegally with no path to citizenship, and Obama extended their stay with no path to citizenship.



Not sure what those in favor of the program expected. DACA was a bad idea from its inception.
Make immigration law the right way, through legislation, not executive orders, or you're just putting people like this in tougher situations when the other side gains control.
 

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why should black people lift a pinky on the issue?

I don't know about "black people", but Americans specifically should know what their positions are on this issue.

Events in the black community don't occur in a vacuum; we're not totally insulated from what happens in overall American society. I'm sorry if I care about more than just the black community. :kanyebp:

what is the impact on the poorest, least educated and most unemployed demographic when you give amnesty to 11 million people and advocate for millions more in the future?

I was asking the same question. :mjstare:

what is the impact of black people becoming the second or third largest non white group?

We're already there, breh. Latinos have been the largest minority group in the US for over a decade now.

what is the impact of black people losing the little political power we do have in NYC, CA and FL by an influx of latino immigrants both legal and illegal?
:kanyebp:


do white liberals and their open borders agenda and them classifying black people as just another minority group actually protect you from white supremacy or are they just another version of white supremacy?
:kanyebp:


why do latino immigrants check of white in the census which is causing the white population INCREASE?
:kanyebp:


how does the 500 year history of white supremacy in latin america manifests itself in the latino immigrant community?
:kanyebp:
 

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If you havent gathered it by now, no distinction is being made(nor will be made) on the right between DACA recipients and illegal immigrants... :yeshrug: They are illegally in this country. Their parents brought them here illegally with no path to citizenship, and Obama extended their stay with no path to citizenship.



Not sure what those in favor of the program expected. DACA was a bad idea from its inception.
Make immigration law the right way, through legislation, not executive orders, or you're just putting people like this in tougher situations when the other side gains control.

According to Obama, his executive action was due to gridlock in Congress over immigration. :kanyebp:

He freely admitted that DACA wasn't perfect, nor was it intended to be a long-term solution. I got my issues with Obie but I really can't fault him for this. :kanyebp:
 

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If you havent gathered it by now, no distinction is being made(nor will be made) on the right between DACA recipients and illegal immigrants... :yeshrug: They are illegally in this country. Their parents brought them here illegally with no path to citizenship, and Obama extended their stay with no path to citizenship.

Don't DACA recipients have work permits though? :patrice:
 

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According to Obama, his executive action was due to gridlock in Congress over immigration. :kanyebp:

He freely admitted that DACA wasn't perfect, nor was it intended to be a long-term solution. I got my issues with Obie but I really can't fault him for this. :kanyebp:
Absolutely, but we knew how the other side of the isle felt, and this was inevitable. Its the same story as with Obamacare, the other side hates it and is going to tear it down first chance they get regardless of the fallout. It is short sighted decision making on both sides.
It sounds cruel(cause it is) but you gotta let "border hoppers" hold their "L" until we can get true reform.
Regardless of how we feel about the laws, siding with law breakers is only gonna get so far politically in todays climate.
 

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I don't know about "black people", but Americans specifically should know what their positions are on this issue.

Events in the black community don't occur in a vacuum; we're not totally insulated from what happens in overall American society. I'm sorry if I care about more than just the black community. :kanyebp:

you are not answering the question, the question is not whether black people should have a position, the question is why should black people take the position that getting rid of DACA is a bad thing?



I was asking the same question. :mjstare:

you were asking me about DACA

the answer to the question is that it decrease wages for the people with little education and few skills

We're already there, breh. Latinos have been the largest minority group in the US for over a decade now.

and we need to ask what is the impact of that, if the trend line continues black people could possibly be the third after asians

my point is that the increase in minority groups does not equate to less racism against black people or more opportunities for black people so therefore its not in black people's interest to have an influx of immigrants and the notion that other minority groups will protect us from white supremacy is a lie


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its very strange that you have no answer to those questions since you just said this

I don't know about "black people", but Americans specifically should know what their positions are on this issue.

Events in the black community don't occur in a vacuum; we're not totally insulated from what happens in overall American society.

how are you so thoroughly versed on daca but have nothing to say about the loss of black political power in NYC, FL and CA? white supremacy in white liberalism? racism in the latino community?do these issues occur in a vacuum? are you insulated from these issues? not enough time in the day to look into these issues? did the podcast not mention these issues?

amazing

and then people think im crazy cuz i mention how black liberals care more about liberal issues then they care about black issues, this post is clear evidence that i wasnt talking crazy

daca has nothing to do with black people, its not a black issue, its not even a black immigrant issue, its purely a liberal issue that is vital to the democratic parties corny plan to use immigration to create a permanent majority
 
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"If you can convince the lowest black man he's better than the best Latino man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

:troll:

and to add to something, aside from legal reasons and the overall stupidity of the idea, the main reason why no black person should support legal or illegal immigrants voting is because it would destroy the last vestiges of black political power in NYC and LA

the fact that posters like you post all this type of babble and dont understand basic things likes this or dont take it into account shows how you are more concerned with liberalism than in black issues
 

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"...... But you do have Latina wives and white men as your business partners.":troll:



:mjlol:at you two :cape:ing for Orange Hitler while you're both in bed with your supposed "opposition"

:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

i dont support trump, and sex is just sex, im not an emotional fakkit like some of yall, me having sex with females doesnt brainwash me
 
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