TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018

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why should I be, I was born here and my parents were too. So what the problem is?
Clear ban on birthrights to illegals' offspring. That extends to you and your filthy immigrant (great) grandparents.

:camby: get out
 

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So you're really dumb enough to believe that after the white supremacists get rid of the Muslims and the Latinos, that your ass isn't next?
:what:Im not dumb enough to fukk myself over before they do...
The "we are next so lets shyt on ourselves first" approach is easily the dumbest.
 

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Push for redress(reparations).
Blacks were never made whole after slavery, and in my opinion wont be able gain any more ground without redress.
The unique challenges we face in this country cant be legislated away in my opinion, and are made worse when we attempt to do so(via resentment and/or a new problem).



As for immigration I believe the wedge already exist with latinos not showing up on our behalf when it counts and voting for Trump(to the tune of 30% if i remember correctly).
:jbhmm:Fixing America seems to involve shytting on blacks regardless of what side of the isle your on...
:mjcry:We really all we got brehs...

1. Push for redress/reparations - we both know this is a non starter.
2. Can't be legislated away - then what are reparations? Presumably that would require some sort of law to be passed. And do you not think that will cause additional resentment?
3. A sizable minority of Hispanic voters have voted for GOP in greater numbers than other in the past (Bush got close to 40%). Absolutely some of them do so because there is resentment for black people. But there are also many that are very socially conservative/evangelical/anti-abortion types. And there are many that do so because they don't want anymore of their own people in the US.

Sounds like you don't really have a plan or any tangible ideas to move forward (no dis just really curious). In fact all of the things you suggest would in actuality harm the group you claim to be so concerned with.

My agent senses are tingling...
 

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1. Push for redress/reparations - we both know this is a non starter.
2. Can't be legislated away - then what are reparations? Presumably that would require some sort of law to be passed. And do you not think that will cause additional resentment?
3. A sizable minority of Hispanic voters have voted for GOP in greater numbers than other in the past (Bush got close to 40%). Absolutely some of them do so because there is resentment for black people. But there are also many that are very socially conservative/evangelical/anti-abortion types. And there are many that do so because they don't want anymore of their own people in the US.

Sounds like you don't really have a plan or any tangible ideas to move forward (no dis just really curious). In fact all of the things you suggest would in actuality harm the group you claim to be so concerned with.

My agent senses are tingling...
1. Sure, right now... we should be putting our efforts towards changing that and getting it on the table. Freeing slaves was a non starter too... should non starters be given up on?:mjpls:
2. Reparations are intended to lift us up economically, not negate or change sentiment towards us. We should have a privileged position in American society... in my opinion of course. Current(and past) legislative efforts have increased resentment while doing nothing to change out second class starting point.
3. They don't fight our fights, and 30% voted for white supremacy... i dont understand where your commitment to them comes from... I dont even understand why so many African Americans believe we(as a community) are in a position to extend ourselves politically, financially, or morally to other demographics.
We have next to nothing... and need to really understand this


Until its not ok to kill blacks I don't wanna hear about mexican problems :camby:
All efforts(by blacks) should be put towards fighting this permanent underclass status we have been chained in. Lowering ourselves further in hopes that Mexicans will come back for us when they are the majority sounds like some okie-doke shyt, and I ain't fallin for it.



 

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Push for redress(reparations).
Blacks were never made whole after slavery, and in my opinion wont be able gain any more ground without redress.
The unique challenges we face in this country cant be legislated away in my opinion, and are made worse when we attempt to do so(via resentment and/or a new problem).



As for immigration I believe the wedge already exist with latinos not showing up on our behalf when it counts and voting for Trump(to the tune of 30% if i remember correctly).
:jbhmm:Fixing America seems to involve shytting on blacks regardless of what side of the isle your on...
:mjcry:We really all we got brehs...
Aren't you trumpset tho?!:dwillhuh:

Not all Hispanics are Tio Tomas breh.. You know how many blacks are in Cuba, DR, PR, panama Colombia and Venezuela?!

You over here tryna isolate all minorities even the ones that are going through legal immigration.
 

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Aren't you trumpset tho?!:dwillhuh:

Not all Hispanics are Tio Tomas breh.. You know how many blacks are in Cuba, DR, PR, panama Colombia and Venezuela?!

You over here tryna isolate all minorities even the ones that are going through legal immigration.
Firstly my focus is African Americans in America...:yeshrug:
...and on the issue of illegal immigration, yes, I'm Trumpset with a capital "T".
Secondly, this is specifically about illegal immigrants, dreamers to be even more specific, the overwhelming majority of which are Mexican.






All that aside, what are you trying to say exactly?:leostare: That we should lend a hand in our own oppression?...
 

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1. Sure, right now... we should be putting our efforts towards changing that and getting it on the table. Freeing slaves was a non starter too... should non starters be given up on?:mjpls:
2. Reparations are intended to lift us up economically, not negate or change sentiment towards us. We should have a privileged position in American society... in my opinion of course. Current(and past) legislative efforts have increased resentment while doing nothing to change out second class starting point.
3. They don't fight our fights, and 30% voted for white supremacy... i dont understand where your commitment to them comes from... I dont even understand why so many African Americans believe we(as a community) are in a position to extend ourselves politically, financially, or morally to other demographics.
We have next to nothing... and need to really understand this


Until its not ok to kill blacks I don't wanna hear about mexican problems
All efforts(by blacks) should be put towards fighting this permanent underclass status we have been chained in. Lowering ourselves further in hopes that Mexicans will come back for us when they are the majority sounds like some okie-doke shyt, and I ain't fallin for it.

1. Fool's errand. Not sure if you remember but a Civil War was fought over the slavery question. There is no viable path to getting 80 percent (let's say you were able to get a few liberal whites to support reparations) of the country to be OK with paying reparations.

2. OK. But see #1

3. It's not about fighting each other's fights. If you have shared interests, you sometimes have to work with/fight alongside people you don't even necessarily like. It's not about having a commitment to them - you really shouldn't have such a simplified view of politics. Purity = zero results.

4. Seems like all you're offering are platitudes. "Put our efforts towards changing that...fighting this permanent underclass status!" It all sounds great but explain to me how this actually happens. Form a new party? Mass demonstrations? Civil War?
 
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