TRUMP TO END DACA VERY SOON; Wants Congress to replace the policy by March 2018

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Those initial rungs in the ladder are important to our economic mobility, and are not all fruit picking as is often suggested.
I think first we must accept that we(blacks) are that low in american society. We have nothing.

Dude i dunno who broke your fukking spirit, but raise up off that bullshyt and empower yourself.
 

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It's not that. People should have waited in line. But this Congress and MANY administrations business owners Governors all looked the other way. You telling me Greg Abbot...Mr. Tough on fukking immigration now when he was AG for years didn't know 30% of his fukkin population might be illegal? fukk yes they all knew. But as long as the money flowed in they looked the other way. Now that people wanted something in return....now it's a problem????
Agreed with you. Texas didn't have a problem back in 2004 when the economy was fire. I mean the Dems are stuck here as well, and I don't know what the answer is.
 

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The POTUS is a piece of shyt. You put innocent peoples' lives in the hands of the most dysfunctional ever.

His lack of legislative victories has him making him this unnecessary move. His administration didn't even propose any legislation to guide the Republican controlled congress. Shows how much he cares. Smh

Hopefully the Congress with the democrats help do the right thing and saves these peoples' lives.

And he isn't getting that wall for the DACA people, Dems shouldn't negotiate with terrorists.
 
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And you still speak without facts. I pulled a politico article and you speak on nothing.

Answer this specific question-

If deporting illegals at a record pace could raise black wages, why did the unemployment rate amongst blacks stay the same and net worth still lag? This is not a question of whether you are for or against illegal immigration.

People enjoyed the status quo because they had no rights or privileges and they got labor out of people they could abuse.

Miss me with your militant talk.

Very interesting point. :jbhmm:



:mjgrin:You're right, I'm just some unimformed internet idiot.


here's Peter N. Kirsanow a attorney and a member of the United States Commission on Civil Rights speaking at a US Judiciary Subcommittee Hearing on Illegal Immigration’s Negative Impact on Black American Employment, answering all your questions.

But lets be honest, you dont get two shyts about how illegal immigration impacts the black community. This is about Trump for you.


Very interesting video. :jbhmm:

I'd like to see how much of an impact illegal immigration has on the black community in comparison with other factors, i.e. if there are five factors, where does illegal immigration rank? :bpthink:

Here's the report Kirsanow cited in that video:
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf
 

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"Immigration can be a controversial topic. We all want safe, secure borders and a dynamic economy, and people of goodwill can have legitimate disagreements about how to fix our immigration system so that everybody plays by the rules.

But that’s not what the action that the White House took today is about. This is about young people who grew up in America – kids who study in our schools, young adults who are starting careers, patriots who pledge allegiance to our flag. These Dreamers are Americans in their hearts, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper. They were brought to this country by their parents, sometimes even as infants. They may not know a country besides ours. They may not even know a language besides English. They often have no idea they’re undocumented until they apply for a job, or college, or a driver’s license.

Over the years, politicians of both parties have worked together to write legislation that would have told these young people – our young people – that if your parents brought you here as a child, if you’ve been here a certain number of years, and if you’re willing to go to college or serve in our military, then you’ll get a chance to stay and earn your citizenship. And for years while I was President, I asked Congress to send me such a bill.

That bill never came. And because it made no sense to expel talented, driven, patriotic young people from the only country they know solely because of the actions of their parents, my administration acted to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people, so that they could continue to contribute to our communities and our country. We did so based on the well-established legal principle of prosecutorial discretion, deployed by Democratic and Republican presidents alike, because our immigration enforcement agencies have limited resources, and it makes sense to focus those resources on those who come illegally to this country to do us harm. Deportations of criminals went up. Some 800,000 young people stepped forward, met rigorous requirements, and went through background checks. And America grew stronger as a result.

But today, that shadow has been cast over some of our best and brightest young people once again. To target these young people is wrong – because they have done nothing wrong. It is self-defeating – because they want to start new businesses, staff our labs, serve in our military, and otherwise contribute to the country we love. And it is cruel. What if our kid’s science teacher, or our friendly neighbor turns out to be a Dreamer? Where are we supposed to send her? To a country she doesn’t know or remember, with a language she may not even speak?

Let’s be clear: the action taken today isn’t required legally. It’s a political decision, and a moral question. Whatever concerns or complaints Americans may have about immigration in general, we shouldn’t threaten the future of this group of young people who are here through no fault of their own, who pose no threat, who are not taking away anything from the rest of us. They are that pitcher on our kid’s softball team, that first responder who helps out his community after a disaster, that cadet in ROTC who wants nothing more than to wear the uniform of the country that gave him a chance. Kicking them out won’t lower the unemployment rate, or lighten anyone’s taxes, or raise anybody’s wages.

It is precisely because this action is contrary to our spirit, and to common sense, that business leaders, faith leaders, economists, and Americans of all political stripes called on the administration not to do what it did today. And now that the White House has shifted its responsibility for these young people to Congress, it’s up to Members of Congress to protect these young people and our future. I’m heartened by those who’ve suggested that they should. And I join my voice with the majority of Americans who hope they step up and do it with a sense of moral urgency that matches the urgency these young people feel.

Ultimately, this is about basic decency. This is about whether we are a people who kick hopeful young strivers out of America, or whether we treat them the way we’d want our own kids to be treated. It’s about who we are as a people – and who we want to be.

What makes us American is not a question of what we look like, or where our names come from, or the way we pray. What makes us American is our fidelity to a set of ideals – that all of us are created equal; that all of us deserve the chance to make of our lives what we will; that all of us share an obligation to stand up, speak out, and secure our most cherished values for the next generation. That’s how America has traveled this far. That’s how, if we keep at it, we will ultimately reach that more perfect union.”
 

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:mjlol:of course

"You have people in this country for 20 years, they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully, they’ve gone to school, they’ve gotten good marks, they’re productive – now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?” he said. “I don’t believe in that.”
 

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Very interesting point. :jbhmm:



Very interesting video. :jbhmm:

I'd like to see how much of an impact illegal immigration has on the black community in comparison with other factors, i.e. if there are five factors, where does illegal immigration rank? :bpthink:

Here's the report Kirsanow cited in that video:
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf
I hate to keep quoting myself but...

start here: http://digitalcommons.ilr.cornell.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1025&context=briggstestimonies
 

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Where did I say Black folks have to support it? My stance has always been getting aggy about low wage work is misguided and a waste of energy.

The anti-black argument in relation to immigration is consistently used to help bolster a line of reasoning that doesn't have much support academically and only marginal support politically. It's an attempt at using emotion to getting black people riled up about an issue they by and large don't give a fukk about...and should continue to not give a fukk about considering the circumstances.

Low Wage work?

Is this low wage work?



How about this?

Illegal Immigrant Allowed to Practice Law, California Court Rules

How about this?

Illegals can apply for skilled labor license jobs like NURSING:

IMMIGRATION: New law lets immigrants apply for licenses – Press Enterprise

You want more?

Half of Texas’ Construction Workers Are Undocumented Immigrants

You still listening?



Lets keep going:

Report: Undocumented getting more white-collar jobs

I got THE FACTS homie.

Illegals are not merely picking fruit, son.

In fact, MANY black unions have complained that even once they're displaced, unnecessary language requirements get tacked on and further displace black Americans. Look at Los Angeles and Miami

Construction workers in L.A. make less now than 40 years ago. Here's why


This article is almost 25 years old: As Hispanic Presence Grows, So Does Black Anger

Employment Discrimination's New Face: Spanish Speakers Preferred

In Chicago there is a class action lawsuit that not only were illegals preferred over BLACK CITIZENS at temp agencies, even if they were paid legal wages, the temp agencies preferred to work around non-black labor.

Discrimination suit alleges black temp workers passed over for Hispanics

ILLEGALS DOMINATE various labor jobs in border countries: In Texas, undocumented immigrants have no shortage of work



WE EVEN HAVE CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY ON THIS: https://www.law.umaryland.edu/marshall/usccr/documents/cr12im2010.pdf



HOW ARE BLACK PEOPLE GOING TO WIN??????
 

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All of you dummies with that are supporting this stupid act that took place by Trump need to answer this simple question .

if people are so tough on immigration why did none of these Governors write in their state laws that businesses that hire illegals will have their business licenses stripped and be put out of business for hiring illegal workers in their states because they like it the way that it was that's why
 
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