Try to fight a professional kickbocking champion brehs

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Yeah, I wouldn't even call these guys street fighters
Boxers are protecting themselves from just 2 fists and only have to guard half their body. It's completely different from a Muay Thai situation where you have at least 8 major points of offense (hands, elbows, knees, feet). Plus you can put a guy in a cinch and just go to work.

Think of a boxer with his hands up tight around his face and then just taking one knee after the other.
A skilled boxer would actually prefer this scenario the most throw an uppercut to the chin, lights out. Being at close range and on foot is literally their territory + they can punch harder than those guys kicks, better defence, stamina, agility and got chins made out of brick smh.
 

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They really don't take head blows though. Thai fighters slowly break you down using all their limbs. It's just a tradition of absorbing damage.

Boxing is a great foundation, but that will get you bodied quick against a Thai fighter.




Breh you don't know Thai fighting. I'm not exaggerating when i say Mayweather will take 2 leg kicks and be immobilized. Them Thai kicks are practically baseball bats. Dudes leave the ring on stretchers because they can't walk


Take away a boxers legs and everything goes. No defense, footwork, or power.
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I got a breh who fought in k1 and he won one and got lit up once.

The point being I used to spa with him when we trained and despite being roughly the same size/reach etc and being athletic when he decided to turn it on he could pick me a part even though I could hold my own.

The same when I've played ball against somebody who plays professional there ability to do what they want when they want is the difference.


A.k.a there's levels to this shyt 🤷‍♂️
 

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I got a breh who fought in k1 and he won one and got lit up once.

The point being I used to spa with him when we trained and despite being roughly the same size/reach etc and being athletic when he decided to turn it on he could pick me a part even though I could hold my own.

The same when I've played ball against somebody who plays professional there ability to do what they want when they want is the difference.


A.k.a there's levels to this shyt 🤷‍♂️


You can't hold your own if he can pick you apart

Stop

:mjlol:
 

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Taking punishment is a horrible game plan for fighting. Of course it’s going to happen but I see it way too much these guy’s barely ever practice defense. Boxing is a lot more technical and advanced

No it's not :mjlol:

You can't use boxing style head movement in a muai thai fight, they'll just time you with a head kick. Fancy boxing footwork goes out the window with the threat of leg kicks. There's a reason for everything breh. Such as why muay thai fighters are more upright and don't move their heads as much, why their weight is not on the front foot, why they use a much narrower stance than boxing etc.. They have far more shyt to worry about than boxing, so they adopt a defensive style that mitigates those threats the best way possible.
 
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You can't hold your own if he can pick you apart

Stop

:mjlol:


Yes I should be ashamed somebody who got paid to fight for a living could take things to a higher level than me an an amateur who trained for fun.

You really got me breh!



I should of wrote the coli ducktale version where I would knock him out and fukk his wife.
 

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I think someone like Floyd Mayweather would be able to find a defense. I just think the mentality of being “tough” is such an outdated strategy.


That was my main point. These guys take damage for no reason. It’d be cool to see some defense once in a while
You've never taken a leg kick before. Let Mayweather eat 4 leg kicks from a Muay Thai champ and it'll be game over for him.
 

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No it's not :mjlol:

You can't use boxing style head movement in a muai thai fight, they'll just time you with a head kick. Fancy boxing footwork goes out the window with the threat of leg kicks. There's a reason for everything breh. Such as why muay thai fighters are more upright and don't move their heads as much, why their weight is not on the front foot, why they use a much narrower stance than boxing etc.. They have far more shyt to worry about than boxing, so they adopt a defensive style that mitigates those threats the best way possible.
Most these dudes have never trained in either Muay Thai or boxing so they don't understand. Basic shyt like planting your feet (like boxers do) is unacceptable in Muay Thai because he's gonna tear up your thigh, quad, or calf with them shin kicks :sadcam:
 

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You’re right I’m uneducated on the subject. It’s just an aspect of that fighting style I don’t like. Just taking a hit, when it could be avoided.
No you have a point. As someone who began Muay Thai only after years of boxing you are right, those dudes are way too comfy with subpar defense. nikkas used to get mad at me for using footwork as simple as circling. Dudes fr just wanted to stand in front of each other and blast kicks
 

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It always bothers me how comfortable kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters are with getting hit. Good boxers have way better defense.


If this was boxing none of them would’ve landed a bunch

Yeah if you try boxing defense against a Thai fighter you'll get a knee or elbow to the head.

Thai fighters absorb blows. Same with Kyokushin Karate. Literally walking tanks that can take a lot of punishment.

Taking punishment is a horrible game plan for fighting. Of course it’s going to happen but I see it way too much these guy’s barely ever practice defense. Boxing is a lot more technical and advanced
I mean both of y’all are right to a degree and I feel the boxing stuff but still… you can’t used “boxing defense in MMA or Kickboxing fights.

There are too many more targets and openings that need to be accounted for
 

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Another thing that I'm seeing is judges don't reward being defensive or slick in Muay Thai the same way like boxing and MMA.

In general, if you want to win fights and climb ranks you got to engage more and bring the fight forward.

That Lerdsila cat I posted earlier is a defensive legend, but dude has lost many fights where he's clearly outclassed someone because judges don't favor that defensive style in the sport. Would have won in boxing and MMA matches, but not to Muay Thai judges. Legacy-wise dude is an all-time great, but many people don't regard him as top 5 all-time because the sport don't reward fighting like that.

When it comes to pure combat, many Muay Thai fighters got terrific defense when it comes to and will probably sleep most other fighters from other disciplines (including boxing), but the sport itself don't reward that kind of style. Some people I think are confusing the actual skill with the sport.

So you got to take into account both sports are scored differently. So even if Mayweather was as effective a defender/fighter in Muay Thai as he was boxing, the judges wouldn't favor him in those fights like against Castillo, De La Hoya, etc. Although he won those in boxing terms (I thought he did too) those would actually be L's on the record in Muay Thai.

Basically, it's a different sport/culture than Boxing/MMA. It'd be like asking why the defender can't be physically aggressive with the shoving, grabbing, etc. in basketball because that'd prevent driving to the lane. It's effective, but the refs going to blow the whistle more than not.
 
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