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Uh oh..the Rock is showcasing Blacks in 2015...what's a new way to hate on him?
His Hogan
is all the ammo anyone needs for a long time. I'm just neutral, as 95 percent of Blacks who make it in entertainment forget they're Black anyway. Will Smith even downplayed racism. We're just self-absorbed like that.
He didn't Superman for Hogan...you got c00ns marking out for whites in TX everyday around here and not giving a fukk about Vince not making Black Champions their whole lives...now they supposed to be critical of the most successful man in wrestling history? LOL. Dumbest $hit ever.His Hogan
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Yeah, he definitely did. It's cool with me, but let's be frank with what he did, so his fans would know. In context, he'd just had an episode of Ballers, where a White guy is thrown off a boat, just for saying nikka. Hogan admits to being "at leat a little bit" racist. So Rock
for him and tries to expose the Black business, as it being locker room talk. So now the implication is that EVERY group is racist behind closed doors. Thanks Rock!
the Supremacy is thinking now, because most of their power is projection. They NEED to feel as if other races are as racist (or more) than they are. Hell, it's been their main source of power. They make deals with non-racist people, then reneg, and the subsequent racism, from their own actions; is flipped on their victims to their masses who might have a conscience. So OMG Rock is such a national treasure to them. He thinks just like a Cuban. I still respect everything he's accomplished, but his Black charm offensive is obviously to promote Ballers, so let's not start sucking his dikk here that hrs revolutionary. He's never had a full Black woman as a love interest, and his children in movies have all be White, while he played crossover roles.
It could be used as hate, if I (or anyone else), really wanted it to be. He took a lot from Ali, but his heart is Samoan/White.
No, no, no..the Rock was asked at a event about the Hogan thing. He didn't do some prepared statement and if you were expecting him to be all angry and act like he was gonna be pissed over some old man who played himself? That's not who Johnson is. Hogan has had to kiss the Rock's ass in several instances since his return to prominence from that Rock match in 2002.Yeah, he definitely did. It's cool with me, but let's be frank with what he did, so his fans would know. In context, he'd just had an episode of Ballers, where a White guy is thrown off a boat, just for saying nikka. Hogan admits to being "at leat a little bit" racist. So Rock
So OMG Rock is such a national treasure to them. He thinks just like a Cuban. I still respect everything he's accomplished, but his Black charm offensive is obviously to promote Ballers, so let's not start sucking his dikk here that hrs revolutionary. He's never had a full Black woman as a love interest, and his children in movies have all be White, while he played crossover roles.
It could be used as hate, if I (or anyone else), really wanted it to be. He took a lot from Ali, but his heart is Samoan/White.
He hasn't had a "FULL BLACK WOMAN" as a love interest...he's casting his own movies now? That's news to me
When you first heard about the Rock in your life, he was making mixed babies with a Cuban woman. Why weren't you mad then? He is a PRODUCT of Samoan and African blood...is his mother a c00n and sell out for not going the all Samoan route? You got better sense than that. That's beyond reproach..the bottom line is the Rock is on ANOTHER level and Hogan is a man got exposed for all to see. Wanting Rock to have a Tupac response to it was never in the cards at all.U got nyggas in here marking out for racist motherfukk3rs in TX..they kissing Levasque's ass when he had his character racially bury Booker T, the all Black hero at this site who can do no wrong apparently even though he was a wannabe Rock sell out looking ass nygga back in 2000 to try to come up in the game. Yeah..that's on the record too. When you wanna be hard and examine and try to point the finger, you gotta look at all avenues because that's how it goes down. Dudes in here calling Austin the GOAT but he apparently slapped around some bimbo looking bytch in Debra yet nyggas bowing down like it never happened. You got nyggas worshipping Kobe when he paid a bytch that said he raped her...had her disappear. The hide and seek game with certain names.
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I'm not marking to and about anyone except Lesnar (and increasingly CM Punk as I now see the effect of his absence and burial). I'm being fair here. I could be 1000x worse, but I like Rock. But I'm not trying to project "the Struggle" onto him, because I know he doesn't see that. It's just that he fukked up big time, and we gloss it over (as well we can, as it seems so minor) but it had some pretty big ramifications.No, no, no..the Rock was asked at a event about the Hogan thing. He didn't do some prepared statement and if you were expecting him to be all angry and act like he was gonna be pissed over some old man who played himself? That's not who Johnson is. Hogan has had to kiss the Rock's ass in several instances since his return to prominence from that Rock match in 2002.
He hasn't had a "FULL BLACK WOMAN" as a love interest...he's casting his own movies now? That's news to me
U got nyggas in here marking out for racist motherfukk3rs in TX..they kissing Levasque's ass when he had his character racially bury Booker T, the all Black hero at this site who can do no wrong apparently even though he was a wannabe Rock sell out looking ass nygga back in 2000 to try to come up in the game. Yeah..that's on the record too. When you wanna be hard and examine and try to point the finger, you gotta look at all avenues because that's how it goes down. Dudes in here calling Austin the GOAT but he apparently slapped around some bimbo looking bytch in Debra yet nyggas bowing down like it never happened. You got nyggas worshipping Kobe when he paid a bytch that said he raped her...had her disappear. The hide and seek game with certain names.
Again, what he was saying (to save Hogan and one of his best moments at Wrestle mania to be shown as Hogan was heading to VACANT status) is that everyone is racist when they're not seen, just as what Hogan was saying. You can't read that any other way. The locker room trash was a direct suggestion that dudes are likely racist with each other, and it's "white noise".
And yes, with the things he does, I consider him a cornball brother that I still love to death. I'm just fair about his mindset. Rock is THE GOAT. He saved a company with Austin. He has had a mercurial rise in EVERYTHING he puts his mind to. He's just not Black, just like Obama and a lot of other dudes that get accepted by White culture.
His mentor, Muhammad Ali, didn't want your adoration if you didn't acknowledge "the Struggle". He wouldn't let you just make him lose himself in dollars, as he ALWAYS knew the bigger picture (until it was knocked from him). Stop trying to sell me that an internationally acclaimed movie SUPERSTAR can't have the writers change very minor things about a story. Rock tells his own story. Doesn't bother me, because I believe relationships are EOE. But Rock is not powerless, as I've seen productions halted for less from stars not as bright as his.
I'm simply being objective.
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fukked up how and where? Where is this perceived fukk up? And yes...everyone behind closed doors say racist shyt. You think Booker T wasn't calling those fukk3rs white devils and all of that $hit when they were calling him a dancing monkey during the Cripple H WM 19 feud? Of course he was. No audio of it though but if you Black, you know what's what dude was feeling. Does he have the courage to say that out loud and risk his job standing today? No. Just like Jericho knew that Cripple H buried him for years and didn't ever speak on it publicly like he was afraid of those nyggas or something. Stupid but that's just how Booker and Jericho are.
And if he's this cornball, who is hard? Who is supposed to be the example of black excellence? Old played out actors who can't find a acting part to save their life these days...Will Smith, Denzel, etc. Cliché cats who do cliché roles. Well Denzel actually has variety and skill to his laundry list but it's not the norm in this day and age for him. LOL@accepted by White Culture. Michael Jordan, the greatest athlete of all time, is the definition of accepted by White Culture and he's dark skin and flaunts his white women around and says "No nyggas" to celebrity friends but you still got cats bowing down to him and he's not seen as a "cornball", eh? You see I call Cripple H that because I would say it to his face. You nyggas be calling Rocky "corny" and all of tha tough talk but damn sure wouldn't say it in his surroundings. So in essence, the person saying it is of a corny and cowardly nature. Rock has Vince McMahon kissing his ass and bowing down to him. Don't believe me?? Who got the most time at WM 31 this year and didn't even wrestle? A 30 minute segment that the crowd was nuts for and he didn't have to do $hit but speak to the fans that made him who he is.
As for Rock pulling power moves on producers and writers? When the fukk has anyone of note ever done this on a yearly basis? It's unheard of unless they produce it. The show that the Rock does produce, Ballers, is a Black show with the Rock as the narrator of it. Those two Reality Shows he produced on TNT had Black focal points during those seasons..you don't give him credit for that. Not Wesley Snipes enough for you. You cats all have your agendas with that guy and always say you love him but always hate on him like some common White youtuber. It's soft and very see through. It's not the Rock's fault that those who you all wanted to be in his spot didn't have the heart and workmanship to get there.They used to chant "DIE ROCKY DIE" at this guy for just a simple 4 month push and now look at him...practically the Boss of All Bosses. You'll never hear a McMahon bash this guy in a article or piece ever again because they know if he goes against the GRAIN of the WWE machine, everyone listens. Just like that.
And if he's this cornball, who is hard? Who is supposed to be the example of black excellence? Old played out actors who can't find a acting part to save their life these days...Will Smith, Denzel, etc. Cliché cats who do cliché roles. Well Denzel actually has variety and skill to his laundry list but it's not the norm in this day and age for him. LOL@accepted by White Culture. Michael Jordan, the greatest athlete of all time, is the definition of accepted by White Culture and he's dark skin and flaunts his white women around and says "No nyggas" to celebrity friends but you still got cats bowing down to him and he's not seen as a "cornball", eh? You see I call Cripple H that because I would say it to his face. You nyggas be calling Rocky "corny" and all of tha tough talk but damn sure wouldn't say it in his surroundings. So in essence, the person saying it is of a corny and cowardly nature. Rock has Vince McMahon kissing his ass and bowing down to him. Don't believe me?? Who got the most time at WM 31 this year and didn't even wrestle? A 30 minute segment that the crowd was nuts for and he didn't have to do $hit but speak to the fans that made him who he is.
As for Rock pulling power moves on producers and writers? When the fukk has anyone of note ever done this on a yearly basis? It's unheard of unless they produce it. The show that the Rock does produce, Ballers, is a Black show with the Rock as the narrator of it. Those two Reality Shows he produced on TNT had Black focal points during those seasons..you don't give him credit for that. Not Wesley Snipes enough for you. You cats all have your agendas with that guy and always say you love him but always hate on him like some common White youtuber. It's soft and very see through. It's not the Rock's fault that those who you all wanted to be in his spot didn't have the heart and workmanship to get there.They used to chant "DIE ROCKY DIE" at this guy for just a simple 4 month push and now look at him...practically the Boss of All Bosses. You'll never hear a McMahon bash this guy in a article or piece ever again because they know if he goes against the GRAIN of the WWE machine, everyone listens. Just like that.
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Wow. That's what I'm saying right there. Black people be trying to play pick up sticks, and get mad when the game is Chess. Supremacists don't want to risk Chess, so they change it to checkers, and still be giving ya'll those L's with that logic in bold. You can't say Booker T thought shyt, just to help the Rock, and you're not understanding the overall game (not on you, as MANY of us don't, but want to sound like we do with terms like Illuminati) in putting your energy caping for some c00n idol. The Rock is a damn ed c00n.
I'm never going to insult him to his face, but I wish someone would ask, "Rock, were you a Republican when you only had that 7 dollars in your pocket?
Or to get Vince to call you "the Chosen One""? Again, this nikka thinks like a Cuban 
. Yes, he's likely now a Colin Powell Republican, but stop acting like he's some revolutionary for blowing out of the water some scripted ass male soap opera. He just capitalizes, very cynically, at being able to claim all races damndd near, and he's not trying to alienate ANYONE, even if that would strengthen his edge later on.People pull power moves on their directors, producers, script writers CONSTANTLY. I'm talking as soon as one actor, or actress, gets an audience edge on a show (or came with huge goodwill to a movie), they're playing power moves. shyt'd, do you know how many scripts have been changed to accommodate an actor's "alignment and momentum" AFTER they've already signed on??!!?? At least 80 percent, so save that noise.
Rock is being who he is. No need to feel sorry for him, but I'm simply telling you what he said, and the potential ramifications of it. No need for you to justify some dangerous bullshyt, just because your idol said it. Black people, least of all, should be saying AT ALL that they harbor racist tendencies. How are you going to hate your still masters? What, we're not slaves anymore because of Obama? We're over here living at the complete benevolence of White people, and want to be all arrogant and shyt..lmao.
They can take your life from you AT ANY TIME. Any one of them. No need to be scared of them, but again, you nikkas are trying to define a game you have no control over, instead of beating the ones you are. It's that you lack the confidence and moral consistency to win the actual game.
Rock sells out, for money, and thus his fans (who don't get a single fukking dollar or consideration) does too. And this happens for a lot of Black millionaires, which is why shyt doesn't change as quickly as it can. Those nikkas don't see the problem (anymore? or ever...most would say ever unless Whites have seen it overtly too). You just said the actions of cornball brothers, to which Jordan is for various reasons. Again, he's been called out, politely as I did, but we still love him. He's waking up, slowly.
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If the Rock is a c00n, Booker has to be a tap dancing goofball, right? GI Bro...the Rock copying act in 2000 and 2001. If he had any heart and any manhood, he would of did what you thought Rock should do with film makers, and not agreed to do that. Yet he DID..for money, for fame..for survival. Even though he ended up looking like a bigger fool in the end.
The Rock is a Republican who supports Obama though..so he does what he wants when he wants. Dudes in here are happy New Day stand out but look how they are standing out..by being clowns and over the top. Lol. Naomi was the $hit 5 months ago but nyggas turned on her and went TEAM LIGHT SKIN in a heartbeat for Sasha Banks..the whiter looking of the Black women. Who's the C00n now? The whole upper deck or just the select few?
The Rock is creating jobs, is a inspiration, and has helped saved a company that the CM Punks and the Cenas/Blandys have brought down to record lows. That's quite the sell out indeed. The kind we must all try to be in our lifetimes.
The Rock is a Republican who supports Obama though..so he does what he wants when he wants. Dudes in here are happy New Day stand out but look how they are standing out..by being clowns and over the top. Lol. Naomi was the $hit 5 months ago but nyggas turned on her and went TEAM LIGHT SKIN in a heartbeat for Sasha Banks..the whiter looking of the Black women. Who's the C00n now? The whole upper deck or just the select few?
The Rock is creating jobs, is a inspiration, and has helped saved a company that the CM Punks and the Cenas/Blandys have brought down to record lows. That's quite the sell out indeed. The kind we must all try to be in our lifetimes.
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Why would I call The Rock out, to his face, if I actually liked the dude? Makes no sense. I'm just trying to help sellouts that may follow in his footsteps, to see his motivations, and choose another path. No way am I going to ever be able to kick his ass without shooting him, but the damage is potentially lethal that The Rock, and brothers like him and stans like you, do to Black people in general.
People have started to see the latent hypocrisy of "The Struggle", and are now speaking on it. It's no one else's fault but ours here. Stan's prove it. Again, if you're going to have a "I don't give a fukk" attitude when Blacks do something, how are you going to come down on Whites for feeling that way about their own people? Or doing the actions themselves?
You can't just live in someone's house, with no power, and demand YOUR rules in that house. There is a charter, as the house is shared, for all people, but you know damned well whose stocked the resources, owns the courts and media, and etc etc. But you still want to ACT like you got some power. We do though...ya'll just don't know what it is, or how to use it. You think it's anger and blind support, when it's a lot deeper, but the basis is logic and consistency.
This is a long and tiring game, so brothers just feel a lot better being the exceptional brothers. The Rock is the pinnacle of exceptional brother, in mind, body, and success.
People have started to see the latent hypocrisy of "The Struggle", and are now speaking on it. It's no one else's fault but ours here. Stan's prove it. Again, if you're going to have a "I don't give a fukk" attitude when Blacks do something, how are you going to come down on Whites for feeling that way about their own people? Or doing the actions themselves?
You can't just live in someone's house, with no power, and demand YOUR rules in that house. There is a charter, as the house is shared, for all people, but you know damned well whose stocked the resources, owns the courts and media, and etc etc. But you still want to ACT like you got some power. We do though...ya'll just don't know what it is, or how to use it. You think it's anger and blind support, when it's a lot deeper, but the basis is logic and consistency.
This is a long and tiring game, so brothers just feel a lot better being the exceptional brothers. The Rock is the pinnacle of exceptional brother, in mind, body, and success.
I don't see the Rock as any sell out. He's a product of hard work. When given opportunities, he took advantage of them like no one else. They wanted him to fall off after WM 15..he was NEVER supposed to be this big but he took advantage of that mic time and made himself a force of nature. A true genius. He's a marvel...not a sell out. And that's why they want to create people in his image. Struggle or not.
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So you're justifying the top c00n? I would say a c00n is defined by his actions. Booker sustained his job. Whites made him c00n for his skill base. shyt...Book and his brother were willing to go to slave levels, as their debut was in shackles for one wrestling outfit (even Whites went
on that shyt). One name was called the Ebony Experience. But, he was desperate and knew what these cac's wanted to ultimately see, and slowly added Black confidence to his game. Book is an example of a very talented dude with NO power...just like the Black divas. I will only judge them if they c00n to Tracy Morgan levels, or destroy each other in backstage to get ahead. Even for far less money, Blacks do the latter ALL THE TIME. I see unity from the Black actors here, and none of the current generation has to do what the past has....yet. Booker was progress that gets good people (of all races) seeing a precedent. That's why I seen numerous articles wondering why Titus ONeil is not getting a push, a few by White people.
You're dealing with the most racist vehicle I've EVER seen, 2nd to network television. Our perception is going to take a while to heal....especially when we have brothers like The Rock and Will Smith acting like everything is okay because THEY don't have to c00n, and can play confident, strong men of moral character. Not all of those roles are cliches either.
We lack the creativity to forge our own paths. If it was that easily, our millionaires would've made our own production houses by now. Wait, it is that easy...but we have very little faith in each other...would why the fukk should anyone else?
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I didn't want to see him as one either, but he has the most potential to do good. He's a SUPREMELY inspirational person. I'm sorry I have to say ANY of this about him. Unfortunately, his caping for Hogan forced me to do some reassessment of my hero as well. He went along with A LOT of shyt in the E for his grand moments too, those that set up HHH to make other Blacks play the clowns for dollars.
You see Canadians especially, and Whites brokering for pushes for THEIR friends, Black and White. I've rarely seen Blacks do that in entertainment, outside those they're fukking. Again, that feeds in the notion of how stupid it is for Blacks to be saying that they're privately racists. You're alienating your strongest allies, with the delusion that you're going to pull off the defeat of White supremacy on your own. It's impossible, and we need to start living in reality.
